Talk:Manbo (Vodou)

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Possible sources for potential overhaul

Making a note of these so I don't have to find them later, or so someone else can use them:

• Medicine and Morality in Haiti: The Contest for Healing Power by Paul Brodwin, Cambridge University Press, 13 Sep 1996.
• The Encyclopedia of Witches, Witchcraft and Wicca by Rosemary Guiley, Infobase Publishing, 1 Jan 2008 - Not completely sure about this one, but may or may not be useful. I've cited another Guiley work at Seven Princes of Hell, so I wouldn't say it's WP:FRINGE even if her more personal works are.
• Tell My Horse: Voodoo and Life in Haiti and Jamaica by Zora Neale Hurston, HarperCollins, 30 Dec 2008 - This should have something in it, though it turned up on my Houngan search.
• A Treasury of Afro-American Folklore: The Oral Literature, Traditions, Legends, Tales, Songs, Religious Beliefs, Customs, Sayings and Humor of Peoples of African Descent in the Americas by Harold Courlander, Da Capo Press, 1996.
• Anthropological Approaches to the Study of Ethnomedicine by Mark Nichter, Taylor & Francis, 1992.
• The Serpent and the Rainbow by Wade Davis, Simon and Schuster, 5 Aug 1997.
• Sacred Possessions: Vodou, Santera̕, Obeah, and the Caribbean by Margarite Fernǹdez Olmos, Rutgers University Press, 1997.
• Voodoo in Haiti: Catholicism, Protestantism & A Model of Effective Ministry in the Context of Voodoo In Haiti by Andre J. Louis, Tate Publishing, 23 Oct 2007 - as "manbo."
• Encyclopedia of Shamanism, Volume 1 by Christina Pratt, The Rosen Publishing Group, 2007.

Ian.thomson (talk) 04:19, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

More Sources/Future Edits

I'm planning on making significant edits to this page for a class research project. In addition to the sources suggested above, I will look into these books:

• Anderson, Jeffrey E., 1974, and Ebook Library. 2015. The voodoo encyclopedia: Magic, ritual, and religion. Santa Barbara, California: Abc-Clio, LLC.
• Cosentino, Donald, 1941, and University of California, Los Angeles. Fowler Museum of Cultural History. 1995. Sacred arts of Haitian Vodou. Los Angeles, Calif: UCLA Fowler Museum of Cultural History
• Ramsey, Kate. 2011. The spirits and the law: Vodou and power in Haiti. Chicago: University of Chicago Press.
• Martin Kameelah L., 1978. 2016. Envisioning black feminist voodoo aesthetics: African spirituality in American cinema. Lanham: Lexington Books.

The article is very bare right now, so I'd like to give more background and context about Haitian Vodou. Also, I think it would be interesting to add sections about notable Mambos in history. I've seen a few things about Mambos outside of Haiti, in places like New York City with Haitian immigrants, so maybe I could talk about that diaspora as well. If you have any suggestions, please let me know! Mlfisher (talk) 20:40, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Possible Sources and Edits

Hello,

I will be making major edits to this page for a class project. Listed below are some sources that I would like to use for the article, as well as the improvements that I hope to make. I also plan on removing the information from voodoureligion.com since it is not a reliable source.

Suggested Improvements:

• Include some background information about Vodou in Haiti
• Discuss the historical origins of the Mambo in Haiti
• Compare and contrast the role of the Mambo with the male counterpart
• Include subheadings describing the differences between the two ranks of the Mambo (high priestess and junior priestess)
• Provide examples of well-known Mambos in Haiti
• Incorporate more reliable sources

Bibliography:

• Brown, Karen McCarthy. Mama Lola: A Vodou Priestess in Brooklyn. The University Press Group Ltd, 2001.
• Cosentino, Donald. Sacred Arts of Haitian Vodou. UCLA Fowler Museum of Cultural History, 1995.
• Rhodes, Jewell Parker. Voodoo Dreams: a Novel of Marie Laveau. Picador USA, 1995.
• Watkins, Angela Denise. Mambos, Priestesses, and Goddesses: Spiritual Healing through Vodou in Black Womens Narratives of Haiti and New Orleans. University of Iowa, 2014. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatgirljessie (talk • contribs) 13:27, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Notes about tag

This isn't bad, but there are some portions here that need to be tweaked to better fit Wikipedia's writing style. I'm also concerned over the use of Oxygen and Slate as sources for this, as there are most likely better sourcing out there. There's also an essay on here that's questionable since there's not a lot of information about its reliability (ie, have others referenced it and where it was used). Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:54, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Shalor (Wiki Ed), I don't understand why Slate would be considered an inferior source for the information that Leveau was used as a character on American Horror Story, or that she was portrayed by Bassett. Unless Slate is considered unreliable, then there shouldn't be any conflict here; it's a perfectly adequate secondary source. Using Oxygen for information about an Oxygen program is dicier, but Slate? I've removed that from the copyedit request, and (as I understand it), replacing sourcing isn't a matter for a copyeditor, so a different template should be used for the sourcing issues mentioned. one of Tori Spelling's autobiographies uncharted terriTORI has a section on her interaction with Mama Lola that was filmed for the show in question starting on page 135 (page 139 mentions filming for the television show) and continues into the 140s: [1]. That might be sufficient, though the available preview pages don't mention whether those scenes ever aired. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:58, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

• For some reason I was thinking that Slate wasn't seen as a super great source on here. I was more curious as to whether or not these would really be the strongest possible sources for this article. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:55, 5 June 2019 (UTC)