Talk:Malin massacre
![]() | Malin massacre is currently a world history good article nominee. Nominated by Birczenin (talk) at 12:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria. Further reviews are welcome from any editor who has not contributed significantly to this article (or nominated it), and can be added to the review page, but the decision whether or not to list the article as a good article should be left to the first reviewer. Short description: 1943 event during World War 2 |
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Nominator: Birczenin (talk · contribs) 12:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Czarking0 (talk · contribs) 23:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- For me this article does not deserve to be singled out because it is somewhere between a B and a good article, you have to correct the mistakes in it and remove the pictures which perhaps infringe copyright, and with these mistakes I do not mean encyclopaedic because it is written excellently, but look for better sources, and if there are none then we can just acknowledge it, but in my opinion something else has to be done. so @Birczenin you need to work on it some more. AleszJaTuTylkoSprzątam (talk) 11:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
I'll take this one. More to follow.
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Finding Sources
editIn response to @AleszJaTuTylkoSprzątam comments on the GA review I am starting this section as an attempt to search for more sources. Unfortunately I only speak English (and Italian which I doubt will be useful here) so my searches are limited to english
- Malin massacre - I don't see anything useful not even the sources that are already covered
- Malin Russky - ditto
- Malin 1943 - ditto
- Malyn massacre - ditto
- Malyn 1943 -ditto
Cambridge University Press
edit- Malin massacre - ditto
- Malin Russky - ditto
- Malin 1943 - ditto
Mohr Siebeck
edit- Malin massacre - ditto
- Malin Massaker - ditto
- Malin 1943 -ditto
Nomos
edit- Malin massacre - ditto
- Malin Massaker - ditto
- Malin Tschechisch - ditto
- Malyn massacre - ditto
- Malyn Massaker - ditto
Given this I am impressed the sources covered here were even found .
I then turn my attention to WikiData
I wonder if these sources from Malyn Raion are useful?
Now we are way out of my depth but maybe these pages are useful?
- https://uk.wiki.x.io/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80_%D0%97%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
- https://uk.wiki.x.io/wiki/%D0%A5%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%96%D0%B9_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0
Very open to other ideas Czarking0 (talk) 16:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- All right, and one more thing, I'm taking down some of the photos that infringe copyright. AleszJaTuTylkoSprzątam (talk) 19:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Totally fair, I actually think the photos can be reproduced under creative commons; however, the copyright tag the author used in the upload is wrong so fair to take it down Czarking0 (talk) 15:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I propose to extend the conversation because I see that @Glaube has taken to correcting, I will do the same this article has a lot of potential to become good so it should be exploited AleszJaTuTylkoSprzątam (talk) 15:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Totally fair, I actually think the photos can be reproduced under creative commons; however, the copyright tag the author used in the upload is wrong so fair to take it down Czarking0 (talk) 15:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Should the article as it stands be C class?
editI have pointed out issues in the GAN and it has been a few days since response. I think as it currently stands the article may be closer to C class than the B it is given. Curious what others think
Should the Names Be In English?
editThe article was original written with names like "Malin Czech". I believe this conforms to the MOS. Other users have modified it to use more polish spelling. This is intuitive to me. Is there a norm or guideline to point to? Czarking0 (talk) 04:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think the same, but I think the Polish spelling should stay, but this sentence belongs to birczenin, if he answers, because he got blocked on the Polish wikipedia and has not been active since. AleszJaTuTylkoSprzątam (talk) 09:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)