Talk:Mahshahr massacre

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Vice regent in topic Requested move 26 February 2020

Requested move 26 February 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 11:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)Reply



Mahshahr massacreMahshahr Killings – As I searched, the term "massacre" is not supported by RS and this killing is not described by massacre" with RSes, while Mahshahr Killings is. Saff V. (talk) 09:08, 26 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Comment The RSes which support the Killings:reuters, NYT, nbcnews and amnesty. They are natural.Saff V. (talk) 07:44, 27 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Telluride I advice you to study wp:RS, globalnews, share.america are not RS. reuters and nytimes suggest the Mahshahr killings.Saff V. (talk) 07:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
Please avoid to use Biased or opinionated sources such Radio Farda and Iran International to support your opinion.Saff V. (talk) 07:57, 27 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
There's nothing wrong with those sources. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:37, 27 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

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I'm also looking at the sources and I also don't find strong evidence that "massacre" is WP:COMMONNAME. Many of the most reliable sources don't use it, including Washington Post[1], and New York Times[2]. In fact, Telluride quoted the NYT article as supporting the usage of the term massacre, but I don't see the article using that term anywhere (maybe I missed it?). Other major reliable sources that use "killing"/"killed", but don't use "massacre", include Guardian[3], Al-Jazeera[4], BBC News[5]. Reuters uses both "killings" and "massacre" in its article[6]. These events are old enough that they have now entered scholarly writing. They are described by Revolution and Dictatorship, published by Princeton University Press (page 246), which also doesn't describe them as "massacre" but rather uses the terms "killed" and "killing". Another scholarly source is The Rise of Digital Repression published by Oxford University Press (page 22-23) and again it doesn't use the word "massacre", but does use the word "killing". The term "massacre" is a WP:POVTITLE and hence "killing" would be preferred.VR talk 06:18, 10 December 2022 (UTC)Reply