Talk:M-331 (Michigan highway)

M-331 (Michigan highway) was one of the Engineering and technology good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
November 14, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
February 3, 2024	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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GA Reassessment

Latest comment: 9 months ago7 comments5 people in discussion

M-331 (Michigan highway)

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Result: Delisted. Real4jyy (talk) 13:06, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

2008 listing with Google Maps as a source. GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 03:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@GabrielPenn4223: not Google Maps, but rather Google Maps' satellite layer for the aerial imagery and only secondarily for some cross-street names. The primary source for the content of that paragraph is MDOT's Truck Operator's Map for the routing. Several dozen Featured Articles use a similar pairing of citations for their route descriptions without issue. If this is the only concern, the citation could be swapped out for the appropriate page in the DeLorme atlas & gazetteer of Michigan in about 30 seconds. Imzadi 1979 → 03:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Not sure if it can be swapped out, but is Google Maps reliable in some cases? GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 08:30, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@GabrielPenn4223: yes, actually, it is. WP:GOOGLEMAPS states that there is no consensus on the reliability or the unreliability of the source after 7 linked discussions, so it's context dependent. It adds: "Google Maps and Google Street View may be useful for some purposes, including finding and verifying geographic coordinates and other basic information like street names." Please read the rest of my comments above though. The article uses an official MDOT map, in this case the Truck Operator's Map, which denotes unsigned as well as signed highways, and pairs that with the Google Maps citation for its satellite imagery for basic details. I've added citations to the DeLorme and Rand McNally atlases though, so everything in the route description is cited through that pairing just as it is through the MDOT+satellite footnote pairing. Imzadi 1979 → 08:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Delist Despite addition of other maps, these do not show any independent coverage explaining why this should have an encyclopedia article, and doesn't expand on the political / engineering reasons for it. I checked some sources and couldn't find a reference to the number or the street names, though I assume I'm looking in the wrong place, so haven't tagged these. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:06, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Keep GAR isn't AfD; the article is in sufficiently good shape now and the History section does explain the reasons for the route's existence and includes some independent coverage. Elli (talk | contribs)

Delist. This article is based mainly on primary and/or non-independent sources, which is against policy.

JoelleJay (talk) 21:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

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