Talk:Lynx (Rheinmetall armoured fighting vehicle)

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I think you wold find that is is the Lynx KF41 that will be offered to the Australian Army, in the link below for the info available on the RFI, there is a specific requirement for 8 dismounts http://www.defence.gov.au/casg/Multimedia/20160902_LAND_400_Phase_3_RFI_Industry_Debrief_-_FINAL-9-7751.pdf

Operators

To Whom may be editing Hungary: please STOP editing. FYI the Operators section is not the place to explain why they have chosen this vehicle and your English is really not up for the task anyway, to put it mildly - thank you.HTKA.hu kamm (talk) 21:58, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

=== BELOW IS A FALSE COMMENT, see my correction underneath - this is such an ill-informed nonsense I leave it here for educational purposes instead of deleting it; it also has some mildly entertaining value. :) HTKA.hu kamm (talk) 18:08, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

There is no "Lynx" vehicle type per se, it is trade name for a cosmetically upgraded export variant of the Marder generation 3 legacy IFV.

This article doesn't mention that "Lynx" is actually a Cold War era "Marder gen.3" hull with a hi-tech skirt applied, thus the vehicle is already considered obsolete and only produced for export. Germany is equipping its army with the next generation "Boxer" vehicle instead. 77.234.84.159 (talk) 10:15, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

CORRECTION with facts

In case you haven't noticed Boxer_(armoured_fighting_vehicle), a joint Rheinmetall and Krauss-Maffei_Wegmann product is a wheeled vehicle, not tracked, for once, so it's obviously not fielded to replace any tracked vehicle. :)

Second, in the past 10 years the Bundeswehr is busy deploying SPz Puma_(IFV), another joint Rheinmetall and Krauss-Maffei_Wegmann product for tracked IFV.

Third, while the Lynx KF31 was built on a Marder base, yes, it was just a proof_of_concept - then the KF41 was designed from scratch, as a brand new platform.

Finally, it's also false that it's being produced for export - it is not being produced anywhere. Rheinmetall just signed its launch customer, the Hungarian Defence Forces and it will be produced in Hungary in a new manufacturing plant jointly owned by the Hungarian government and Rheinmetall.

FYI your entire comment shows your utter lack of knowledge on the topic - please, educate yourself before you comment any further. This is not a forum to voice your opinion and especially not about known facts; this is a wiki talk page to discuss actual entries about the topic at hand. Please, stop spreading your misinformation. HTKA.hu kamm (talk) 18:08, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Edit made on 17:27, 12 March 2021‎

Many sources do use LAND 400 instead of Land 400, even this article from the defence ministry of Australia uses LAND 400: LAND 400 Phase 3 Australian Industry Capability Roadshow a success

Other than that, I agree with the edits.

Korvidus (talk) 18:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Slovakia - potential user

I see this was added, and then a citation provided. However, it's an announcement of a requirement and a vehicle being shown in the country that made that announcement. Now, it would be fair to assume that Rheinmetall will be looking at this requirement, but so will many many others. The company has not actually even stated it will look at this requirement, and even if it had, the Slovak MoD has not issued a formal RfP or similar. Lynx, or any other vehicle, can only realistically be listed under 'potential operator' (Slovakia) when the vehicle is accepted by the potential user under some form of competition. Based on the inclusion of Slovakia as a potential user of Lynx, should we now add every country in which it has shown/demonstrated, or maybe even go a step further and add every country that has a requirement for this type of vehicle? I mean, why not? They're all potential users in the expanded sense. But seriously, no formal program in which the vehicle is competing, no listing I'd say. And yes, I'm looking into Qatar...SurfaceAgentX2Zero (talk) 12:38, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Potential users

I note that Admiralis-generalis-Aladeen added some potential users to this page. I have removed them, and also Qatar as they do not really qualify as potential users.

I've said this type of stuff before, and it would be fair to assume that Rheinmetall will be looking at the requirements in Slovakia, Iraq and maybe Qatar, and others of course, but so will many many other manufacturers. Lynx, or any other vehicle, can only realistically be listed under 'potential operator' when the vehicle is accepted by the potential user under some form of competition. Based on the inclusion of Slovakia, Iraq or even Qatar as a potential user of Lynx, should we now add every country in which it has been shown/demonstrated, or maybe even go a step further and add every country that has a requirement for this type of vehicle? They're all potential users in the expanded sense. And then of course should we Wiki-wide add the same information on the pages of all comparable vehciles? See what I mean? No formal program in which the vehicle is competing, no listing I'd say. I cannot find a hard and fast Wiki rule on this but I'm not a super-duper Wiki policeman, and if there's any disagreemnet here, before reverting my changes I would suggest we open the topic up for full and open discussion. Obviously can't put this on the user page for Admiralis-generalis-Aladeen as he/she/they does/do not have one.SurfaceAgentX2Zero (talk) 09:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Slovakia has a formal program for IFV procurment!!! And Lynx is on of the contenders!

They are going to buy 152 IFVs this year - there si an offical tender. It is as serious as the australian project and much more serious then th american OMFV program, which has been cancelled and relaunched several times! If USA and Australia is in the list, then Slovakia should be there as well!

Please put it back! Admiralis-generalis-Aladeen (talk) 11:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Qatar's Lynx purche is speculation can, it be deleted, but do not delete others! Definetly not Slovakia. It will be governemnt to government arms purchse. Government of Hungary handed over it's offer in January of 2022 in cooperation with Rheinmetall. CV90, ASCOD and Borsuk also in the game.

If CZ can be there with their ridiculous IFV project (they have been trying to buy an IFV for 4 years now), then Slovakia is a serous project. Admiralis-generalis-Aladeen (talk) 11:21, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Admiralis-generalis-Aladeen for providing a valid citable source for Slovakia and Lynx. I agree, it should now be included. I'm not sure about Iraq though? It's a pretty vaugue suggestion and looks like something designed to lure you in to a purchase... And I can find nothing anywhere else on the web that suggests Iraq is viable. Have you seen another source? Perhaps at the very least the source provided should be flagged as questionable and standalone. Your thoughts? SurfaceAgentX2Zero (talk) 13:35, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

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