Talk:Log cabin

This article has been renamed from log cabin (building) to log cabin as the result of a move request.

Lincoln

Popular myth that Lincoln grew up a log cabin? You mean he didn't? Of course he didn't grow up in Illinois, but in Indiana, after being born in Kentucky. He lived and worked in Illinois. -- Decumanus | Talk 03:50, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Double checked. Certainly the national park service thinks he was born in a log cabin, and they run the birth place in Kentucky [1] -- Decumanus | Talk 03:56, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

The "myth" thing may arise from the fact that the log cabin that exists at the birth place now was not the log cabin in which he was born, since it was constructed 30 years after his death. [2]. -- Decumanus | Talk 04:02, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Died out?

Did log cabins die out in the 20th century, I think that's when most of them were built, especially in Alaska. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.165.134.49 (talk • contribs) at 20.51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

No - in fact 40,000 (approx.) are built each year. but they are log "homes." 68.98.145.55 (talk) 01:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)andrew

Article scope

If log-cabins are primarily an American (US) architectural style, then why shouldn't this article primarily reflect an American viewpoint? 69.19.14.22 22:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

If this is so, then the page title and heading should reflect that. However the reference to the "Swedes" somewhat counters that claim, and it's a fact that many log dwellings were/are built in other parts of the world. Plus the style of the writing has a non-encyclopedic tone which also narrows the focus to N. American dwelling. An example:

"See the O'Farrell Cabin (ca. 1865) in Boise, Idaho where a backed wallpaper was used over newspaper."

First of all, see it how? A link to a Boise, Idaho page is liable to be frustrating to people who blindly click on it, thinking it will be a picture of the O'Farrell Cabin. Secondly, the reference to backed wallpaper over newspaper should be confirmed with either a direct image or description link, or it should be accompanied by an image showing the style. Dmodlin71 (talk) 06:17, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Folk Log Structures - Follow-up

Log structures were used and continue to exist in several parts of Europe, particularly throughout Scandanevia, the Bohemian region of Germany, and in small pockets of France, and the British Isles (though much later on). This type of construction technique and shelter type became perhaps most prevelant and popular in America, but its source is the immigrants from the nations above who imparted these skills and techniques throughout the Midland Culture Region, spreading from the East Coast (particularly throughout Pennsylvania) the Ohio River Valley, and into several states of the western United States. Log structures continued to be built for the initial purpose of shelter, farming, and storage into the early 20th century, replicas continue to be made and original structures have in many cases been renovated or re-built in new locations. I'll look at this article and expand in the next several days. Internazionale 14:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Rename

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved Log cabin (building) to Log cabin. ●DanMS • Talk 04:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

Log cabin (building) → Log cabin — almost every link to Log cabin intends the building —Ewlyahoocom 05:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Survey

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• Support - every other page listed at Log cabin (disambiguation) has some additional qualifying word in the name (Campaign, Texas, Republicans, etc). Pfly 06:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
• Support - per reasons given. Reginmund 22:52, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
• Support - Pfly made a point. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 23:38, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
• Support - I don't even think there should be a dab page when only one entry is ever referred to as a "log cabin". Dekimasuよ! 05:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

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Loghouse merge

Loghouse is a previously "lonely" article that consisted of nothing about a paragraph of misspelled, poorly written, unreferenced text about log homes. While this Log cabin article has tags regarding the limited scope and US-centric writing style, Loghouse suffers from these problems even more.

There was previously One article that linked to it, and I've switched it to here. My main question is this: Is there any real distinction between a Log cabin and a Loghouse or reason to keep that page?

The distinction I've read in several places is that "log cabin" means (or once meant) a rough and quickly built structure intended to be temporary, while a "log house" means (or once meant) something intended to be nice and permanent. A distinguishing feature sometimes cited is whether the logs are left round and maybe with the bark still on (log cabin) or whether they are squared flat (log house). Apparently in the frontier days of America log houses were often covered with plaster on the inside, and perhaps wallpaper, and sometimes with clapboard on the outside.

But I don't see a need for two pages on the topic. Since all old log homes in America are typically called log cabins, even when they are quite big, the page "log cabin" could serve as the main one, but contain info about the difference in historical usage. I'm not sure about modern log houses, but I expect they could be included in such an article too. Fewer short articles often equals a more encyclopedic approach! If I remember, I'll look for the books where I read about this stuff, next time I'm at the library. Pfly 03:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

If such a distinction does exist then fine. The problem is that the articles don't reflect that. -Theanphibian ^{(talk • contribs)} 02:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• Merge Whatever distinctions exist can be better highlighted in a merged article. Note that there's also a Log home article which seems to deal with "modern" log structures. Ewlyahoocom 05:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
• Actioned - I have carried out the merge. TerriersFan (talk) 18:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

plagiarism

http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Log_cabin&diff=80951724&oldid=79737062 shows that large parts of at least this page were copied without attribution and by deceivingly changing individual words.--Espoo (talk) 00:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Symbolism (internet?)

Two years a go an unregistered user added this line to symbolism;

"The "Log Cabin" has become a vernacular reference to the Internet, referring to the solitary, shut-in nature of computer geeks who decrease socializing."

It has been without a citation for two years, and I can find nothing on this in any of the slang or vernacular dictionaries. I am deleting; if anybody can find anything please correct me.

--Bridgecross (talk) 19:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Dubious

There is no way that some tplace in New Jersey has teh greatest consentration of Log Cabins in the world. Try cottage country in Canada, where there are whole log towns mand log resorts. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 20:52, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Confusing Sentence

I'm confused by the second half of this introductory sentence: "...it was the first generation home building erected quickly for frontier shelter." Is it "the first generation-home-building" or "the first-generation home-building," meaning the method of choice for the first generation of European settlers in the US? Is it "the first...building [to be] erected quickly?" Or is it "the first building [because it could be] erected quickly?" I might be missing something, but I've read this sentence over a few times and I'm not sure how the clauses add up.Sadiemonster (talk) 10:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Edits

I made some changes for readability and clarity, also tried to do something about the American slant, at least in the European section. And cut out an interesting paragraph on the military applications of log construction that was unrelated to cabins. Hope this meets with approval. SereneRain (talk) 03:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

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How many Presidents were born in log cabins?

The article says "Seven United States Presidents were born in log cabins, including..." (and names six Presidents). Was it really six? Or did one President get left out of the list, perhaps maliciously? Also, there appears to be a link supporting this statement, but the link (which is dead, but from the name of it in the references section should be https://www.nps.gov/whho/index.htm ) does not seem to have anything to do with log cabins? Mathmannix (talk) 21:17, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Photo of log cabin

http://commons.m.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Cabin_21_47_53_270000.jpeg&oldid=358048383 whicky1978 ^talk 13:54, 14 July 2019 (UTC)