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The scope of this list is untenable. It is trying to list saints of the Russian Orthodox Church (regardless of whether they were "Russian" by "nationality" or not), simultaneously with people who supposedly had "Russian" as their "nationality", and were recognised as saints by any and all other Eastern Orthodox churches all around the world throughout history. This mixup cannot satisfy WP:LISTCRIT. Per List of saints of the Serbian Orthodox Church, I propose to rescope the list to only saints recognised by the Russian Orthodox Church, regardless of their "nationality" being "Russian" or not, which has already led to boatloads of WP:OR/WP:SYNTH. I'm going to be WP:BOLD in renaming and rescoping this list, because nobody else seems to be addressing these issues. NLeeuw (talk) 20:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've split off Canonization in the Russian Orthodox Church from List of Russian saints (until 15th century). That hopefully clears up a lot of confusion in a list that was already quite long. The latter article may have to be renamed List of saints in the Metropolis of Kiev and all Rus' as well. What matters is the canonising authority, not the "nationality" of the person canonised as a "saint". We will inevitably get endless discussions, debates, disputes and disagreements over whether this or that "saint" was a "Rus'", a "Russian", a "Ukrainian", a "Belarusian", a "Varangian", a "Kyivan", a "Muscovite", a "Novgorodian" etc. if we group saints by "nationality". I've already had to make several corrections in the list that claim the Kyiv Pechersk Lavra was the first monastery in Russia. No, it wasn't. Russia didn't exist yet. If anything, it was the first monastery in what we now call Ukraine, but that didn't yet exist either, so it's best to simply describe it as the first monastery in Kievan Rus', so that's what I did. NLeeuw (talk) 22:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect List of Russian saints. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 7#List of Russian saints until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Veverve (talk) 01:35, 7 May 2021 (UTC)