Talk:List of rail transport modelling scale standards

Merger

I vote NO. The two articles in their current state have a different scope. This one should be a comprehensive list of all the scales grouped by the standardisation body (if any) and with links to scale-specific page where the background and features of each scale is explained more in detail. Z220info 10:34, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

From the titles, and from someone outside of the hobby, I can't tell what the difference is supposed to be. I think they should be merged. If they're not going to be merged, I think it is almost required to move one or both of them to different (more specific) names, so it's more apparent what the difference is. --GargoyleMT 12:06, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

How about moving the scales as defined by standardisation bodies to a new article (maybe Rail transport modelling standards) and merging anything else into Rail transport modelling scales? Or move the info about standards into the NEM and NMRA articles? Zabdiel 6 August 2007

Sure? --GargoyleMT 22:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Which option do you favour? I prefer merging stuff into NEM and NMRA over creating a new article. Zabdiel 7 August 2007

I'm not so sure now - I still think moving NEM and NMRA standards into NEW and NMRA articles is a good plan - however I don't know what to do with the the British, Japanese and Live Steam sections. They all have useful info that is in a better form here than anywhere else on wikipedia. Zabdiel 16:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

If you're not sure where some of the content should be, leaving the articles in their current state is fine. I don't know anything about these scales - I just wandered into these articles by accident. --GargoyleMT 12:43, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Live steam

Who or what is LBSC in the following? Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 16:47, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

developed in England in the early 1900's by LBSC and his peers.

London, Brighton & South Coast (Railway). - by S.C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.243.70.149 (talk) 12:27, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

• LBSC, pen name of Curly Lawrence, who wrote for Model Engineer et al. for years. It's a reference to the LB&SCR, but not a direct one. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:32, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

A very speedy correction. I had just discovered my error and was about to correct it, but you beat me too it. My thanks. S.C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.243.70.149 (talk) 12:53, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Gauge vers scale

What's with this sudden flood of references to "gauge 1" everywhere? I would recommend keeping in mind that gauge and scale are not the same thing, even if "gauge" is often used incorrectly in place of "scale".

Z220info (talk) 15:29, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Scope of this article

The original scope of this article is to serve as a comprehensive quick reference list of various scales ever used in model railways. Widening it to discuss model railway standards with everything they cover does not make sense and would eventually lead to an article unrealistically heavy. There are already individual articles of various standards and they should be further developed and new ones added instead of integrating everything in this one.

Z220info (talk) 10:31, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Bugger - I just realised I have probably stepped on some toes moving the page back. The way I see thing is that Rail transport modelling scales covers the 1:xxx ratios, "Rail transport modelling" is used rather than "model railway" as it avoids the "model railroad" conflict / issue.

Is there a reason for what you propose cannot be a part of the previously mentioned article? They sort of overlap, but not entirely. Wongm (talk) 13:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

The articles overlap indeed, but they have a different approach. This one tries to classify the scales and gauges by their origin whereas the other one currently bundles apparently similar scales from different origins and ignores narrow gauge pretty much. Not sure how the two could be merged considering the different philosophies.

Regarding the title, this one should not be called "Rail transport modelling standards" since it does not cover any standard in depth and should instead be linked to various standards mentioned in the scale/gauge list. As this article focuses on scale and gauges and perhaps a more suitable title would be "Rail transport modelling scales and gauges"
Z220info (talk) 14:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Russian gauge scaled: needs sources

Recemtly added: section === Forum 1520 ===

The next scaled gauges (from 1,520 mm (4 ft 11+27⁄32 in) Russian gauge) need a source. The calculation may be OK, but we need to know whether any model track was ever produced.

The same question for the Brunel gauges BTW. 7 ft (2,134 mm) Brunel gauge

Scale	Ratio	1520 mm gauge	2140 mm (7 ft 0.25 in) gauge	Notes
N	1:160	9.6 mm	13.5 mm	-
H0	1:87	17.5 mm	24.5 mm	"Half Zero"
0	1:45	34 mm	48 mm
1	1:32	48 mm	67.2 mm	–

-DePiep (talk) 20:39, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Removed from article, no sources available. -DePiep (talk) 19:42, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

This initiative was discussed at one of the Russian forums of railway fans. It does not apply, at least in mass, and is NOT a standard. So, any attempts to indicate "as is in fact" from this Japanese can be immediately deleted. =) Зелёный Кошак 16:19, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

And yet, in the Russian community of railway modelers have been using for many years the norms of the NEM standard. Зелёный Кошак 16:23, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

5" Gauge Live Steam

... is normally modelled at 1:12 not 1:11 scale. Stub Mandrel (talk) 21:11, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

287 mm model gauge: source?

In List_of_rail_transport_modelling_scale_standards#Live_steam it says:

"- 1:5 287 mm Used in Sweden. Also called the ÅHÅ scale."

However, I get no hits googling/searching wiki. Is this scale railgauge (287 mm) sourced somewhere? -DePiep (talk) 11:59, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

What about "L Gauge"

I was curious if L-Gauge was considered for inclusion here. It's one of the most popular with kids. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.34.80.255 (talk) 18:39, 15 February 2021 (UTC)