Talk:List of frigates of India

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Horse Eye's Back in topic SPS
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August 22, 2016Featured list candidateNot promoted
March 14, 2017WikiProject A-class reviewNot approved
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 6, 2016.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that fourteen guided missile frigates (INS Shivalik pictured) are operated by the Indian Navy?
Current status: Former featured list candidate


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G'day, I have the following suggestions for improving this list towards B-list class:

  • the lead should be no more than four paragraphs
  • there should be no information in the lead that isn't elsewhere in the article
  • the introductory sentences for each section of the list should be expanded to a decent paragraph to adequately introduce the subsections, elucidating common themes etc. (e.g. when was the first frigate introduced, how many lost to enemy action, home grown or purchased from overseas, etc.)
  • the prose will need a copy edit

Anyway, I hope this helps. Thanks for your efforts. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:53, 15 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

@AustralianRupert: Thanks for your suggestions. I have improved it keeping them in mind. Please review it. Regards, KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 15:10, 20 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
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SPS

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@Dhtwiki: you said "lets discuss this" but you never opened a discussion, I'm interested in what you have to say about these non-expert SPS being RS. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

I'm assuming that "SPS" means "self-published sources". Do you need to be so cryptic? I'm letting you start the discussion, since you decided to remove so many citation, merely declaring the sources as non-reliable. Is that site formally deprecated as such? I'm also looking for a less drastic approach, such as placing templates suggesting that more reliable sources are needed. I'd like to have feedback from others watching this page before letting so many citations be swept away (most, if not all, of them well templated, which suggests a certain degree of thoughtfulness that, I think, should be respected). Dhtwiki (talk) 16:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
Didn't mean to be cryptic, I thought everyone was aware of WP:SPS. Deprecation is a step beyond simple unreliability. The burden is on the person who wants to add sources to justify their concerns and get consensus, not on the person who removes them. Removing the SPS but not the information sourced to them is the less dramatic approach, the other option is to delete the text that was sourced to them as well. It does no good to be mad at the person who removes obviously unreliable sources, instead you should be mad at whoever added them. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:07, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
From a review of the history it is @KCVelaga:'s inability to evaluate a source's reliability which you should be mad at. Don't get mad at the competent editor cleaning up the mess, get mad at the incompetent editor who made it. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:10, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply