Talk:List of findings in the Hurt Report

Possible Copyvio

I hesitated between this and a Prod. In short, this page is a straight copy/paste from the actual report. I don't know if the report qualifies as public domain, but if it isn't this is almost assuredly more than fair use would seem to cover.Tyrenon (talk) 21:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

The Hurt Report is a US Federal Government publication and is in the public domain. I began by uploading a copy to WP Commons [23]. Anyone can download the original PDF from the US Government here: [24]. At the time I thought that it would be convenient to have a copy, although it might better belong on WP Source than Commons. I'm kind of fuzzy on the sister projects and what each one does.

My motivation for creating a page that lists all 55 conclusions was twofold. First, the Hurt Report article's Findings section [25] only listed 7 findings chosen by a WP editor, and I thought it would be less biased to present the full list, in the order they were originally published. I think the article was trying to promote a POV by selecting only certain points, paraphrasing them, and ordering them that way. The second reason is that the PDF scan of the report is riddled with text-recognition errors, making it difficulty to search, highlight, and quote. By creating the WP page and fixing the typos, it is more useful.

Another editor then moved all 55 into the Hurt Report article [26]. And then another editor removed the entire list, saying [27] " summarize points here rather than list them -- that's why we have List of Findings in the Hurt Report.

I can see a possible reason to delete it on the grounds that it belongs on Wikisource, provided the text is in a useful format, but the copyright shouldn't be a problem. Unless I'm mistaken, but my understanding is that it is the work of employees of the US Federal Gov.--Dbratland (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

As I said, I was uncertain. I think moving this to Wikisource is probably best; even though it's not a copyvio, large blocks of copy/pastes tend to be discouraged, particularly if that's all the article is. If it could be moved there and then removed from here, that would probably be optimal.Tyrenon (talk) 22:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll move it over to Wikisource in the next 3-10 days. I'll probably move the full copy of the Hurt Report PDF there as well.--Dbratland (talk) 05:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Help requested with moving to WikiSource

I said I would move this to WikiSource but I got utterly lost trying to find a page with simple instructions on how to do that. Can anyone point me to there? Thanks! --Dbratland (talk) 20:19, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The Wikisource what Wikisource includes guideline considers this a documentary source and requires inclusion in "complete form whenever possible." Is there a plain-text version of the entire report available? — Brianhe (talk) 16:24, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

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