Talk:Fatal dog attacks in the United States
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Examples of breed name format, as recommended:
- Labrador Retriever
- Labrador Retriever mix
- Labrador Retriever-Husky mix
- Doberman Pinscher
- American Pit Bull Terrier
- pit bull
- pit bull mix
- mixed breed dog
- pack of dogs
Examples if two dogs of the same or mixed breed are involved in an attack, as recommended:
- German Shepherds (2)
- Doberman Pinschers (2)
- mixed breed dogs (2)
- pack of dogs (2)
- pit bulls (2)
- Doberman Pinschers (2), German Shepherds (2), pit bull mixes (2)
Note: In the case that a dog's description includes multiple (three more) breeds, then by definition it is a mixed breed dog and should be listed as a "mixed breed dog" in the "Category" field; however, the various breeds (if known) can be described in the "Circumstances" field.
After investigation, sometimes there is a final issued statement about the breed. In such an instance, the breed column should be corrected. The various earlier mentioned breeds MAY be noted in the circumstances, but should NOT be left remaining in the breed column.![]() | On 21 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from List of fatal dog attacks in the United States to Fatal dog attacks in the United States. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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editCome on, why delete a real fatality because you don't like the website someone listed, especially when that web page contains actual links to news articles or a google search easily finds other websites covering those fatalities. Carter Hartle was removed but is covered here. [1] [2] [3] [4] Wikianon3770617 (talk) 21:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- It has nothing to do with being careless, and it has nothing to do with not liking a website. WP:Reliable sources and WP:Deprecated sources. Anyone who wants to source it correctly, go right ahead. But posting it with a deprecated source: now, that's careless. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- You think erasing something because its format is not perfect or up to some arcane standards is a better solution than correcting something that can so easily be corrected? Wikianon3770617 (talk) 22:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Wikianon3770617: You are welcome to restore this content with reliable sources. The editor who removed this content was under no obligation to search for different sources. Rather, the original poster was the one who should have provided these sources. BTW, in Wikipedia, something is not considered "real", truthful, or accurate unless it is backed by a reliable source. This is not some arcane standard, but the entire premise that keeps Wikipedia reliable and useful. Rublamb (talk) 22:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- You think erasing something because its format is not perfect or up to some arcane standards is a better solution than correcting something that can so easily be corrected? Wikianon3770617 (talk) 22:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- 2015-11-15 Oneida County, New York: Carter Evan Hartle [5], 11 months M, Pit bull x Shar Pei. Attacked by the 2-year-old family dog while playing in his home with his siblings. The dog was euthanized.[6] [7] [8] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikianon3770617 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Additional deaths
edit- 2023-09-20 (died 2023-09-21) Kennewick, Washington: Billene "Billi" Cameron, 65 F, 2 pit bulls. Two pit bulls escaped their yard and attacked a neighbor's dog, then attacked Cameron as she tried to save her dog. Cameron was seriously bitten and died a few hours later. Both dogs had a history of getting loose and both had been "declared dangerous" by the county for several attacks on humans and other animals. The owner, Sara Amilia Madrigal, 34, had to file for permits to keep the dogs, though after this killing the dogs were seized and euthanized. Madrigal had kept the dogs in her backyard "because she didn't believe it was safe to have them in the house around her children". Madrigal was charged with "dog attack resulting in injury or death", pled guilty, was sentenced to 10 months with work release, will be subject to restitution, and cannot own a dog for the next five years. [9] [10] [11]
- 2024-04-12 Portsmouth, Virginia, USA: Cindy White, 51 F, 3 pit bulls. A woman walked into a house to visit the male resident and was attacked by 3 pit bulls. The man tried unsuccessfully to stop the attack. Neighbors arrived later and blamed the man and beat him up, sending him to the hospital. The dogs were euthanized. Police noted they had responded three times in the last year for incidents related to those pit bulls, and neighbors recounted several aggressive and biting incidents. [12] [13] [14] [15]
- 2024-04-26 Bronx, New York, USA: Kaheem Robinson, 41 M, pit bull. The dog was biting its owner's throat when responders arrived at his apartment. They shot and killed the dog to stop the attack. Robinson was pronounced dead at the hospital. [16] [17]
- 2024-06-08 Jeremiah, Kentucky: Trina Sandlin, 57 F, dogs (unknown). Sandlin left her home to walk to a neighboring house and did not arrive. Her family found her body a few hours later over an embankment. The coroners said the injuries were consistent with a dog attack, and Sandlin had defensive wounds. [18] [19] [20]
- 2024-06-14 Baltimore, Maryland: Sheelia Jones, 54 F, 2 pit bulls. The dogs attack 3 people, killing Jones and injuring 2 others. Responders shot one, which was euthanized, and the other was taken by animal control. [21]
* 2024-06-14 Villanueva, La Guajira, Colombia: Jesús Hernández Fragoso, 93 M, pit bull. The man was preparing to feed his own dog when it attacked his neck. The dog died from being beaten by neighbors trying to get the dog to release his bite. The man died at the hospital. [22]
- 2024-06-24 Monte Alto, Texas: Geronima Florez, 85 F, pit bull. Florez was attacked and killed by one of her dogs when she went outside to feed them. Her brother walked in on the attack and shot and killed the dog. Florez died at hospital. She would often take in strays, and animal control took the other dogs. [23]
- 2024-06-27 Snyder, Texas: Tony Bryan Berkley, 40 M. Responders found Berkley's body in the road. Two dogs were taken by animal control. [24] [25]
Wikianon3770617 (talk) 17:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- See above discussions, where for the purpose of having criteria it was decided that stories should need national/non-local reporting for inclusion. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with @Traumnovelle. Please dig deeper and see if any of these recieved national coverage or were in major publications. Also note that the incident in Columbia is not appropriate for a United States list. Rublamb (talk) 20:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- My mistake. That Colombia one got on the wrong page. We should also add any fatal events that resulted in someone getting convicted of a criminal offense since those are highly unusual. Wikianon3770617 (talk) 21:13, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- If they're unusual they should receive widespread coverage. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- That may seem logical, but is just holding on to historic norms that don't hold up in present day. News coverage has changed drastically in just the last few years. You might expect a horrific event to be covered in a newspaper outside its area (don't hold your breath), but you won't find any follow up news such as criminal charges or convictions, or civil suits. Such follow up actions are unusual in this day and age in the USA.
- It used to be that fatal dog attacks were unusual and "big news", but now they are just one-news-cycle stories. I suspect that the death count, which has risen to >50, then >80, then >100 in a year (from an average of 30s/40s for many years), might have had something to do with that. Wikianon3770617 (talk) 21:29, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Which is all the more reason Wikipedia should be selective in the criteria. These are not uncommon events. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I want to agree with that. We should only include deaths that have been deemed significant by sources that go beyond the flash in the pan. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:44, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Wikianon3770617: Before I worked on the list, that is what others said (that these incidents don't get that kind of coverage). However, I more than doubled the size of the list using this criteria. Newspapers.com, People, and USA Today are great places to look.
- I don't think convictiions are going to be helpful as a criteria. Felonies and murder charges, yes. But misdemeanors related to dog licenses, lack of dog control, etc. are hardly significant. I agree that convictions do not always get coverage. However, it would be fine to have a national source about the attack and a local source for the conviction. Rublamb (talk) 00:57, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- I presume apnews.com counts. Thanks, Rublamb, for the tips. Wikianon3770617 (talk) 21:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the Associated Press would count as international (or maybe national) coverage. It would not count as local coverage anyhow. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I presume apnews.com counts. Thanks, Rublamb, for the tips. Wikianon3770617 (talk) 21:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Which is all the more reason Wikipedia should be selective in the criteria. These are not uncommon events. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- If they're unusual they should receive widespread coverage. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- My mistake. That Colombia one got on the wrong page. We should also add any fatal events that resulted in someone getting convicted of a criminal offense since those are highly unusual. Wikianon3770617 (talk) 21:13, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
From AP News
edit- 2024-01-29 (died 2024-02-02) in Detroit, Michigan: 35-year-old Harold Phillips was attacked by three dogs while walking home from a bus stop. He died four days after the attack, and after having his arm amputated. The dogs had been involved in three previous dog bite cases, and were euthanized this time. [26] [27] [28] The owners were both charged with "dangerous animal causing death". [29] Harold's widow filed suit against the dog owners, Detroit Animal Care and Control, and several other organizations and individuals, claiming the city's no-kill model and avoidance of euthanasia created a dangerous environment for Detroiters. [30]
- 2024-03-13 in East Hartford, Connecticut: 1-year-old baby Lennox and his mother were on a trampoline when they were attacked by the two family dogs, pit bull - dalmation mixes. The mother was injured and the boy died at hospital. The dogs were quarantined. [31] [32] [33]
- 2024-07-19 in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota: Covil Lee Allen, a 3-year-old boy, was attacked by two pit bulls while accompanying his family to the dog owner's home to purchase dogs. Several adults tried to stop the dog attack with pick axes and hammers, and police ultimately shot both dogs. [34] [35] Covil died on July 29.
Fatality which "impacted laws or legislation"
edit- 2019-08-19 in Detroit, Michigan: 9-year-old Emma Hernandez was attacked and killed by a neighbor's three pit bulls while riding her bicycle. The owner was charged with second-degree murder. There had been repeated complaints about these dogs, but officials never took action. Detroit City Council later amended their dangerous animal ordinance by adding "Emma's Clause", requiring animal control to investigate all complaints about dangerous animals including visiting the location and taking photographs. [36] [37]
Billene "Billi" Cameron
editThis was reported by at least 7 different news agencies, and the victim was well known in her area.
- 2023-09-20 (died 2023-09-21) Kennewick, Washington: Billene "Billi" Cameron, 65 F, 2 pit bulls. Two pit bulls escaped their yard and attacked a neighbor's dog, then attacked Cameron as she tried to save her dog. Cameron was seriously bitten and died a few hours later. Both dogs had a history of getting loose and both had been "declared dangerous" by the county for several attacks on humans and other animals. The owner, Sara Amilia Madrigal, 34, had to file for permits to keep the dogs, though after this killing the dogs were seized and euthanized. Madrigal had kept the dogs in her backyard "because she didn't believe it was safe to have them in the house around her children". Madrigal was charged with "dog attack resulting in injury or death", pled guilty, was sentenced to 10 months with work release, will be subject to restitution, and cannot own a dog for the next five years. [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46]
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