Talk:List of Wimbledon ladies' singles champions
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Martina Navratilova
editGiven that Martina is now a US citizen, why are her early wins not listed as Czech? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.130.18.238 (talk) 23:31, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- It's sort of in limbo right now as we discuss it. In 1975 Martina defected to the US from Czechoslovakia and they immediately stripped her of citizenship. She was not allowed to play Fed Cup and represent the US until she had attained US citizenship. Though in the US legally and pretty much playing as a US player she technically had no country as she had no citizenship. In 1981 she attained US citizenship. There are legitimate arguments for Czech flag, US flag and no flag at all. I hope that helps you out a bit. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:21, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- It is settled law, the ultimate authoratative voice for this tournament said American, and it should be thus and so on here. Here is the up-to-date source http://aeltc2009.wimbledon.org/en_GB/about/history/rolls/ladiesroll.html TW-RF (talk) 18:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- Further Go read these sources and see [1][2][3][4][5][6][7]
- ^ http://aeltc.wimbledon.org/en_GB/about/history/rolls/ladiesroll.html
- ^ http://www.answers.com/topic/martina-navratilova
- ^ http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7BUOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=W30DAAAAIBAJ&pg=7238,1608590&dq=martina+navratilova
- ^ http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761576078/martina_navratilova.html
- ^ http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7BUOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=W30DAAAAIBAJ&pg=7238,1608590&dq=martina+navratilova
- ^ http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=martina+navratilova&scoring=a&hl=en&ned=us&sa=N&sugg=d&as_ldate=1975/09&as_hdate=1975/09&lnav=hist8
- ^ http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=martina+navratilova&scoring=a&hl=en&ned=us&sa=N&cid=8483616971554851
- Yet again you are wrong, which here it is from Wimbledon on another similar case and point "1973 was a sad year for Wimbledon as 81 members of the Association of Tennis Professionals boycotted the meeting following the suspension earlier in the year of Nikki Pilic by the Yugoslavian Lawn Tennis Association. Despite the absence of so many players, attendance reached over 300,000. Jan Kodes of Czechoslovakia and Billie Jean King won the Singles Championships for the sixth time." http://aeltc2009.wimbledon.org/en_GB/about/museum/museum_history.html 98.240.44.215 (talk) 03:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- More: "Frustrated by the Czechoslovakian Tennis Federation's interference with her career, Navratilova defected to the United States in 1975. The same year she became a leading player on the women's professional tennis tour, as she and Evert won the French Open doubles championship, Navratilova’s first major title. The next year the pair won the Wimbledon doubles championship." http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761576078/martina_navratilova.html98.240.44.215 (talk) 03:53, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Again MMOORREE! 'As a teenager, Navratilova's tennis skills allowed her to tour foreign countries, including the United States. She felt stifled in Czechoslovakia and defected at the U.S. Open in 1975, shortly before her 19th birthday. At the time, she said it was strictly a matter of tennis. "Politics had nothing to do with my decision," she said in an Associated Press story. "It was strictly a tennis matter." In Prague, a reporter told her grandfather, who was quoted as replying, "Oh, the little idiot, why did she do that?" The defection was prompted in part, she said, by an incident early in 1975 when she was playing in a tournament at Amelia Island off the coast of Florida. She received a telegram from the officials of the Czech Sports Federation demanding that she return home. "I was in the middle of the tournament," she said. "I had to call upon the U.S. Tennis Association to help get me permission to play. That was when I really decided that I should leave Czechoslovakia."' http://www.answers.com/topic/martina-navratilova 98.240.44.215 (talk) 04:11, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Looking Found MMMOOORRREEE 10th and 11th paragraph go look she had to get permission, which that means control! I have to ask you exactly how much do you know about the history of tennis! This was rather easy for me! http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7BUOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=W30DAAAAIBAJ&pg=7238,1608590&dq=martina+navratilova 98.240.44.215 (talk) 04:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- My Search! Go Look! http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=martina+navratilova&scoring=a&hl=en&ned=us&sa=N&cid=8483616971554852 98.240.44.215 (talk) 04:22, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- After political asylum, Navratilova had to compete as an American because it was forced and should could not be nationless because then she could not compete because they had to get permission from a national tennis federation or club in order to play in the slams and other events sanctioned under the ITF! I love educating other editors and people at large!98.240.44.215 (talk) 04:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- I GOT EVIDENCE YES I DO, AND I LOVE IT!98.240.44.215 (talk) 04:27, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- After political asylum, Navratilova had to compete as an American because it was forced and should could not be nationless because then she could not compete because they had to get permission from a national tennis federation or club in order to play in the slams and other events sanctioned under the ITF! I love educating other editors and people at large!98.240.44.215 (talk) 04:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- My Search! Go Look! http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=martina+navratilova&scoring=a&hl=en&ned=us&sa=N&cid=8483616971554852 98.240.44.215 (talk) 04:22, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Looking Found MMMOOORRREEE 10th and 11th paragraph go look she had to get permission, which that means control! I have to ask you exactly how much do you know about the history of tennis! This was rather easy for me! http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7BUOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=W30DAAAAIBAJ&pg=7238,1608590&dq=martina+navratilova 98.240.44.215 (talk) 04:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Again MMOORREE! 'As a teenager, Navratilova's tennis skills allowed her to tour foreign countries, including the United States. She felt stifled in Czechoslovakia and defected at the U.S. Open in 1975, shortly before her 19th birthday. At the time, she said it was strictly a matter of tennis. "Politics had nothing to do with my decision," she said in an Associated Press story. "It was strictly a tennis matter." In Prague, a reporter told her grandfather, who was quoted as replying, "Oh, the little idiot, why did she do that?" The defection was prompted in part, she said, by an incident early in 1975 when she was playing in a tournament at Amelia Island off the coast of Florida. She received a telegram from the officials of the Czech Sports Federation demanding that she return home. "I was in the middle of the tournament," she said. "I had to call upon the U.S. Tennis Association to help get me permission to play. That was when I really decided that I should leave Czechoslovakia."' http://www.answers.com/topic/martina-navratilova 98.240.44.215 (talk) 04:11, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- More: "Frustrated by the Czechoslovakian Tennis Federation's interference with her career, Navratilova defected to the United States in 1975. The same year she became a leading player on the women's professional tennis tour, as she and Evert won the French Open doubles championship, Navratilova’s first major title. The next year the pair won the Wimbledon doubles championship." http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761576078/martina_navratilova.html98.240.44.215 (talk) 03:53, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yet again you are wrong, which here it is from Wimbledon on another similar case and point "1973 was a sad year for Wimbledon as 81 members of the Association of Tennis Professionals boycotted the meeting following the suspension earlier in the year of Nikki Pilic by the Yugoslavian Lawn Tennis Association. Despite the absence of so many players, attendance reached over 300,000. Jan Kodes of Czechoslovakia and Billie Jean King won the Singles Championships for the sixth time." http://aeltc2009.wimbledon.org/en_GB/about/museum/museum_history.html 98.240.44.215 (talk) 03:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Maiden names and married names
editIt would be nice to indicate, in boldface, the names of the ladies at the time of each championship (e.g. Blanche Bingley Hillyard). I have the relevant data; but when I try to do such such an edit, it breaks the link to the lady's main entry.
Suggestions? Or is it a stupid idea in the first place? Paul Magnussen (talk) 18:49, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Angelique Kerber: German or Polish?
editI understand she has dual citizenship. But she lives in Poland. So is she German or Polish or both? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.167.92.26 (talk) 19:17, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- She represents Germany in tennis so she has a German flag in tennis articles. She is not Polish in tennis. Whether she is Polish in other areas is a matter of definition. See Angelique Kerber#Personal life for a quote from herself: "I am German".[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 20:00, 14 July 2018 (UTC)