Talk:List of Steven Universe characters
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editAbout Amethyst, it is listed: "and she appears to have a slight cleft in her lip"; with that in mind, also Garnet and Rose also have a cleft, since their mouths are drawn the same way. I believe is just the way the artist draws some woman lips, when they are big — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbraMacabra (talk • contribs) 14:32, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- The lips of Garnet, Rose, Jasper, etc. are not drawn the same way. Amethyst is listed as having a cleft in her lip not just because her lips are big, it's because they turn up in the center. To illustrate my point, compare Amethyst and Opal to Jasper and Garnet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.199.202.98 (talk) 23:01, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Gem pronouns
editFor the case of the gems, it was revealed by the Rebecca Sugar that they are in fact not female, but just gems[1], meaning that the pronouns on this page should be renamed to they/them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozzi145 (talk • contribs) 01:48, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Within the show, they are referred to using female pronouns. According to various crew members, female pronouns are fine as the gems have appropriated them, seeing as their own culture doesn't have such distinction. Lastly, though I am not fond of it, Wikipedia guidelines does not allow gender-neutral pronouns yet. I imagine them/they taking off in a few years on Wikipedia as well, but until then, we'd have to try to evade pronouns altogether (which isn't as difficult as it sounds in English), which would be foolish when the gems have a pronoun they are fine with. Gender and pronouns don't always need to match fully: their are plenty of non-binary people with preferred pronouns, or that simply don't care about pronouns, such as myself. ~Mable (chat) 18:02, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Steven's age
editSteven is referred to in the article as being ten years old- however this is inaccurate as it has never been confirmed by either the show's creators or the show itself, and remains ambiguous. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:C640:3E00:C41:89DA:FEC5:BC16 (talk) 22:27, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
It is now confirmed in Stevens birthday that he was thirteen years old throughout the series since he turned fourteen in the episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.72.143.81 (talk) 07:32, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Article cleanup
editI think this article could use some improvement. Most of it is written from an in-universe perspective, several portions are written in huge walls of text detailing trivial aspects of the show, and there's plenty of juicy third-party sources that can easily be carried over from the main article, just to name a few immediate issues. There's more to be done, but for now, I'm putting up a notification. User:Immblueversion (talk) 01:33, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
VA images
editI think that photographs of the voice actors would enliven the otherwise text-heavy article, but somebody disagrees. Thoughts by others? The diversity of the voice cast is something that has been commented on, and the VA images do illustrate that. Sandstein 19:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Third Opinion
editSince the inclusion of photographs of the voice actors has not been discussed at all on this talk page, I am declining to provide a third opinion. Discuss here, please. Third opinion is for content disputes. If there is edit-warring without discussion, that is a conduct issue. (In other words, if reverting continues, take to WP:ANEW or WP:ANI or WP:RFPP.) Robert McClenon (talk) 17:46, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Continued discussion
editSince nobody has opined here, I'm adding the images back. If you object, please explain here why you do. Sandstein 17:27, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Reason why VA images should be removed
editAnyone could simply look up the voice actors and their names are liked to their pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.53.75 (talk) 01:17, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- @64.121.53.75: The point of the images is to illustrate an otherwise text-only article and to give readers a direct visual impression of the scope and diversity of the voice cast. What is it about these goals that you object to? Sandstein 08:55, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Main characters
editWhy is Peridot listed under "Main Characters"? She hasn't been a main character throughout the whole series, so maybe you made her a main character when she became a crystal Gem in "Message Received"? I need you to tell me:
- why did you make peridot a main character of the show
- why can't she be under "crystal gems" alongside Rose Quartz, Ruby and sapphire
Please respond soon! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.72.143.81 (talk) 07:44, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Maybe instead of breaking up the characters into Main Characters, Crystal Gems, Citizens of Beach City, and Homeworld Gems, we simplify it to Gems and Humans, and within those parameters list the characters by how featured or "main," they are? This would resolve the issue of whether Peridot is now a crystal gem or a main character or a homeworld gem, it would also bring Rose Quartz up higher. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.110.242.88 (talk) 18:53, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. There's no sense in keeping "Citizens of Beach City" and "Other Gems" apart from "Recurring characters", so I propose we split the article into three sections: "Main characters" (for the four core Crystal Gems), "Recurring human characters", and "Recurring Gem" characters. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 02:35, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
So this is coming up again... I don't think Peridot should be included as a "main character". What say others? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:42, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Rationale for current order of minor human characters
editI just did a major overhaul of the list of human recurring characters, trimming out tons of minor trivia and plot synopsis—if people want detailed bios of minor characters, they can go to the Steven Universe wikia. I also changed the order in which characters were listed: my goals were usefulness to the reader and clarity. It's loosely in order of importance—as measured e.g. by number of episodes a character appears in or is featured in—on the grounds that readers are more likely to be looking for information on more important characters, so they should be listed sooner.
- The cool kids are first, not because they're necessarily the most important minor characters—though they're pretty important, being featured as a group in starring roles in at least two episodes and individually in several more—but because it helps organize the list: they can be introduced in terms of their relationship to each other, and then their family members can be described in terms of their relationships to them.
- Other than the cool kids, Onion and Ronaldo are pretty clearly the most significant minor characters, each having starring roles in at least three episodes (Onion Trade/Friend/Gang; KBCW, Horror Club, RT/CS) and background, supporting, and cameo appearances in tons of others.
- Having just listed Ronaldo makes it easy to segue into the rest of his family.
- Where feasible I've tried to keep families together, for clarity (even though e.g. Kiki appears more often than Kofi). But Onion and Sour Cream obviously have much more frequent appearences than any of their parents, and the cool kids are grouped together instead of with the rest of their families for reasons described above.
- Mayor Dewey, Connie's parents, the Pizza family, and Mr. Smiley each have starring roles in maybe one or two episodes and occasional background, supporting, or cameo appearances.
- Onion and Sour Cream's parents have basically been featured once each and have fairly rare cameo appearances. The same is true of Jamie, Barb, and Kevin.
AJD (talk) 05:57, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
- I agree and commend you for your work. I previously gave up on this article because it was too much work cutting out the fancruft that kept accreting through IP edits. Let's hope we can keep it more or less in this state. Sandstein 10:28, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hm, looking at it again, I think the prose could still well be cut by about half for most characters; we're still too much in plot summary territory and not discussing the reception of the characters in reliable sources. Sandstein 10:30, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that several of them still seem a little on the long side, especially the major recurring Gem characters (Peridot, Lapis, Jasper, Rose). In those ones I felt their appearances and arcs depend so much on their significance in the plot that trying to describe the characters and the role they play in the show without providing context in terms of plot summary would be hard for new readers to follow, but it may well be that they could be trimmed down farther. Finding reliable sources to discuss the characters' reception and impact would be great, but just trimming down the cruft so far has been so exhausting that I haven't been able to manage to devote energy to it yet. You're more than welcome to give it a try. AJD (talk) 14:26, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
Ownership vs. stewardship
editI've been reverting a lot of what I perceive as accretion of cruft—most recently, explanation of the status of Quartzes as a warrior caste and a synopsis of the end of the episode Monster Reunion, neither of which I think is important enough for the purpose of this article—understanding the characters, their relationships, and their functions in the story being told—to justify the wordiness. But I worry that I may be crossing the line between stewardship and ownership of the article and reverting changes just because they're not what I would have chosen to include. So if you think I'm deleting important information, by all means call me out on it here. AJD (talk) 04:59, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- On the one hand, it would be appropriate to have a (very) brief mention that Quartzes are a warrior caste, what with it being an important plot point in Seasons 3 and 4, but, otherwise, I wholeheartedly applaud your anti-cruft efforts.--Mr Fink (talk) 05:20, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll add back in a mention of the Quartz warriors where relevant. AJD (talk) 12:29, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
structure of character
editI agree that it would be better to have a listing of instead of humans to instead list them as citizens of Beach City. This can include all the named character that we run into as all the humans in the series are residents of Beach City and human. Steven and the Crystal Gems can be first listed as Main characters, Connie probably included, while characters like Jasper, Peridot, Rose, and Lapus can be listed under side/supporting characters. Then another listing can explain the gem world hierarchy. Spadaccisn (talk) 21:47, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
- Not all the recurring human characters are residents of Beach City—Marty is the obvious one, though he's really peripheral as a character, but Connie's parents don't appear to live in Beach City either. (Though I admit it's kind of unclear.) I'm not sure whether you're objecting to the current organization of the page or not. Garnet, Amethyst, Pearl, and Steven are currently included in "main characters" and Connie isn't because, well, the theme song basically states that they're the main characters, and in the closing credits they're listed as something like "featured voices" and others, even Connie and Greg, are listed as "other voices" (or something like that). Connie, Greg, Lapis, Peridot, Jasper, and Rose are listed as major supporting characters because they have major roles in the overarching plot, and Lars and Sadie because they appear very frequently for supporting characters and have their own long-running plot and character arcs. AJD (talk) 02:30, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
ChaosDestroyer's edits
editChaosDestroyer, here's why I'm reverting your edits on Lapis Lazuli:
- "Angelic": this is at best your personal opinion. It doesn't seem to mean very much.
- "absolute telekinetic control over water": again, it's not clear what "absolute" means here, and it's not clear whether such a description is even correct
- "watery liquid wings": awkward phrase; "wings made of water" is clearer
- listing powers at beginning: Lapis's powers are incidental to her character; they should certainly be mentioned for completeess, but they're really not very important for understanding who she is as a person.
- detailed synopsis of how Lapis came to be embedded in the mirror: this article is about the characters, not plot summaries.
- "educational magical mirror": the mirror was neither intended nor ever actually used for education
- the reason the Gems gave Steven the mirror is likewise not really relevant here
Also I think Lapis should be listed after Peridot because Peridot has been established more as a major character, but I'm not going to press the point. AJD (talk) 07:29, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
(Regarding Malachite: okay, I do see cases where Malachite is described as "unstable", so I guess we can let it stand. I think it's confusing because it sounds like what "unstable fusion" should mean is "a fusion that's likely to split apart into its component Gems", which is obviously not true of Malachite. But I guess it just means, like, psychologically unstable? AJD (talk) 07:29, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
ChaosDestroyer was a sock of Gonzales John and is now blocked. Doug Weller talk 13:24, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
173.76.248.109 edits
edit173.76.248.109, here's why I'm reverting your edits:
- Bismuths are builders: a minor background detail that's not really relevant to our understanding of who Bismuth is as a person, or her role in the story
- "Amethyst and Pearl can only fuse together for threatening situations": not true in general (cf. episode Log Date)
- Opal "shoots energy arrows": detail of how a Gem weapon functions seems extraneous; more importantly, "energy arrows" aren't a real thing so it's not really meaningful without a definition, and it's definitely not important enough to use space on explaining what it means.
- Sugilite "in that episode": we haven't seen enough of her to be able to say whether this is really true beyond that episode.
Other edits: for the most part these neither improve nor detract from the article except that there are several typos, and it's easier to revert the whole thing than go through and pick out individual bits and pieces to save that don't actually make any difference to the quality of the article.
Amethyst's Lack of a Main Page
editSo, I'm working on an article for Amethyst. I feel like she deserves one just as much as Garnet or Pearl, as she's a main character and one fourth of the Crystal Gems. When I tried to establish her new page, however, it created it as a redirect to her section on this one. I went ahead and weaved some of my own article into the already-existing one to avoid redundancy. I have written some stuff about her general character and plot arc, and I was hoping to involve some more about her various fusions, self-discovery, and unique relationship with Steven. Do you guys have any other ideas on stuff that I could include? I'm really trying to make this page happen.
MarinaThings (talk) 22:37, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I reverted your edits to this page because I didn't see your comment here. That said, I still don't think the edits you made on this page were appropriate for the list-of-characters page, being overly detailed and redundant with information that was already here. However, I have removed the redirect from Amethyst (Steven Universe), so you should be able to make your edits directly on that page from now on. AJD (talk) 05:58, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
No Andy yet
editI removed Andy from the list of recurring human characters because he's only appeared in one episode so far; if he makes another appearance we can add him to the list. There's a case to be made that if Bismuth is listed, Andy should be listed; but in general this article seems to give more detail to Gem characters who are relevant to the overarching meta-plot and history of the Gem war than to human characters. Moreover, Bismuth was a heavily-promoted guest-star appearance from a well-known Emmy-winning actor, which isn't the case for Andy. AJD (talk) 05:54, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
- Oh hey, if Andy does make a second appearance, or Mystery Girl from "Last One Out of Beach City", they'll be the first human character who didn't appear in season 1 to make a second appearance. I think? AJD (talk) 05:43, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Pizza
editSilly question, but is it actually canon that Kofi etc.'s last name is "Pizza"? AJD (talk) 15:04, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, their surname is "Pizza" according to
the Diamond Authoritycanon.--Mr Fink (talk) 15:27, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
- Is it just Steven calling them "the Pizzas" in Beach Party, or does it come from somewhere else as well? (I mean like, does anyone on the show ever say "Jenny Pizza", or anything like that?) AJD (talk) 04:39, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- I think it's taken from what Rebecca Sugar has written for those characters.--Mr Fink (talk) 05:06, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- Is it just Steven calling them "the Pizzas" in Beach Party, or does it come from somewhere else as well? (I mean like, does anyone on the show ever say "Jenny Pizza", or anything like that?) AJD (talk) 04:39, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Holly Blue Agate
edit(spoiler warning for leaked episodes)
I deleted an entry on Holly Blue Agate from the page, on the grounds that she only appears in one episode and doesn't have a major character arc or role in the overarching meta-plot of the series. (Okay, she appears in two episodes, but it's a single multi-episode storyline; she doesn't have appearances in multiple separate episode storylines.) The only other one-shot character listed on the page is Bismuth, and Bismuth was a main character of the episode she appeared in, her character was explored in depth, and she was played by a heavily-advertised guest star, none of which are true for Holly. Disagree? AJD (talk) 23:00, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed. By the way, the gemstone is called "Holley blue agate", with an E. Apparently the Gem empire is really familiar with small Oregon towns. Sandstein 23:12, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the spell-check! AJD (talk) 23:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- (Though the episode closing credits spell the character as "Holly") AJD (talk) 23:18, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- True. So it seems that either the series creators or the Gems aren't up on their mineralogy. Sandstein 15:41, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- "I'll report you to the Diamonds about this!"--Mr Fink (talk) 15:52, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- True. So it seems that either the series creators or the Gems aren't up on their mineralogy. Sandstein 15:41, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- If I can offer a dissenting opinion: Holly Blue is in TWO episodes (Gem Heist and That Will Be All), the quartzes make appearances in three (including The Zoo), and the station itself is seen in a fourth (AILD). This is a major plot arc for the fourth season, and a major character development for Amethyst in particular. I feel an entry on these characters and their setting is justified. Radagast (talk) 20:23, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- I'm thinking of the zoo arc as basically one five-part episode, in a sense, though I can see where you're coming from. And the fact that the quartzes at the zoo are a major character development point for Amethyst doesn't mean they themselves are recurring characters (indeed, they have scarcely any individual characterization of their own). If consensus emerges that appearing in multiple episodes in the zoo arc makes you a "recurring" character, I'll accept it; but I really think we should try and reduce this article's bloat as much as possible. (I don't really think we should have an entry for Blue and Yellow Pearl, either, since they don't have much in the way of characterization either.) AJD (talk) 20:37, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I will definitely be advocating for their inclusion if and when they reappear. Radagast (talk) 20:49, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Corrupted Jasper fusion
editI deleted an entry on the fusion between Jasper and the corrupted Gem monster from "Earthlings", on the grounds that I don't think that fusion is really a character—it only exists for a few seconds. doesn't speak or have a name, and functions more as a plot device than a character in its own right. Then again, all of those things (except having a name) are true of Rainbow Quartz as well, and we have an entry for her. So now I'm not sure. What do you think? AJD (talk) 08:38, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- If we want to be anal-retentive, we should keep Jasper's corrupted fusion as an entry: if not, we should just mention it in Jasper's entry as an important detail of her last stand.--Mr Fink (talk) 15:21, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- No, she's not a character of any substance (no speaking lines, etc.), and can be briefly mentioned in Jasper's entry. Sandstein 15:41, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Steven Boom
editAnd where are the gems Aquamarine and Topaz?--90.106.134.200 (talk) 13:52, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- They've only appeared in one two-part episode so far, and their personalities weren't explored very much. We don't usually add characters to this list until they've appeared at least a couple of times. Bismuth is an exception because her one episode explored her character pretty thoroughly and stirred up notable controversy. AJD (talk) 16:16, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Opal and Jasper
editPictures for Opal amd Jasper like in spanish wikipedia.--90.106.134.200 (talk) 11:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Lion/Lars connection
editIn the wake of the "Wanted" arc, people have been adding notes like "Lion's pocket dimension is the same one that becomes accessible through Lars' hair" to the sections on Lion and/or Lars. I have usually reverted them but I'm not sure I've been correct to do so. Is this a fact that's important enough to note on this page? If so, does it make sense to list it under Lion's section or under Lars's (or both)? One reason I've been reverting it is because it doesn't quite seem to make sense in either place; it's not a fact about either of them as characters. Thoughts? AJD (talk) 22:59, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Zircons and Pumpkin
editShould the Zircons and Pumpkin (Lapis and Peridot's pet) have sections? If this has been discussed already, then I apologize. Dangronples (talk) 17:07, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- The Zircons, no—they've only been in one episode. I'm not really that comfortable even with including the characters who have only been in two episodes (e.g., Holly Blue Agate), but people kept adding them so often that I gave up. Pumpkin... eh, maybe. It's been in two episodes at least. I don't know if it's really a "character" yet per se. AJD (talk) 22:56, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Reorganizing
editI thought of a new idea on how to organize the recurring human characters, but I'm not sure if it would be a good idea. I will paste the list below (in no particular order).
Andy DeMayo, Beach Citywalk Fries (Mr. Fryman, Peedee, Ronaldo), The Maheswarans (Priyanka and Doug), Harold Smiley, Fish Stew Pizza (Kofi, Jenny, Kiki, Nanefua), The Deweys (Bill Dewey, Buck Dewey), Fish & Chips [?] (Onion, Yellowtail, Sour Cream, Vidalia), Post Office (Jamie, Barb Miller), Others (Kevin, Marty),
About the [?]: I didn't know what to call Yellowtail and Vidalia's family, but I heard they owned a spot named Fish & Chips. I'm not sure if it's accurate information. Dangronples (talk) 17:38, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- I prefer the way it is now: roughly in order of importance (e.g., how many episodes they appear in), with some exceptions made when doing so would make the descriptions clearer. AJD (talk) 22:58, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- (See my explanations above. AJD (talk) 22:59, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
The Cluster
editIs the Cluster a "character"? Should it be listed here? AJD (talk) 20:11, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Ruby squad
editThe Ruby squad—Leggy, Army, Eyeball, Navy, and Doc—are recurring characters who have appeared in 2–4 episodes and have more or less well-developed personalities. The other rubies who appear in the flashback in "The Answer" are none of those things; that's why they're not on the list of recurring characters. If other Rubies appear as recurring characters, they can be listed in their own section; the squad from season 3 forms a natural grouping. AJD (talk) 15:51, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Gems as non-binary women
editRebecca Sugar has referred to the gems as non-binary women: [1]
With this in mind, would anyone object to adding female character categories to the full gem characters? (Garnet, Amethyst, Pearl) Oornery (talk) 23:49, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- I support this, though alternatively we might be able to have categories such as Category:Fictional non-binary women and Category:Fictional non-binary men at some point. We probably cannot populate such categories yet as of this moment, though, so simply putting them under female characters should be fine enough. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:31, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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Responding to anon's edit summary questions
editAn anonymous editor has been leaving comments and questions in the edit summary. Here I'll respond to them:
- "Y'all should give more context for the 'Rubies being tricked' thing." I'm trying to avoid putting too much plot summary in the character list article, when we can just describe the characters. What I mean by saying the Rubies "become ruthless when they realize that they have been tricked" is, for example, Eyeball immediately attempting to kill Steven when she realizes that he has Rose Quartz's gem, or Navy planning a long con to steal her ship back. The fact that they're comically gullible doesn't mean they're not a threat.
- "Why is Rainbow important again? I don't really get it." In the flashback in "Now We're Only Falling Apart", we see Rose and Pearl attempt to fuse as a result of witnessing Garnet for the first time. This is a turning point in Rose and Pearl's relationship, and in the history of the rebellion: it makes Rose resolve to fight for the self-determination of Gems, not just for the independence of Earth.
- "Can somebody revert the article to the edit made by 2601:548:180:139d:c8a5:f77c:dfc6:f8b2 on 2 February 2019?" The way you revert an article is by opening the version you want to revert to and clicking "edit". But I don't want to do that, because that would lose some improvements to the article that have been made since then.
"Overview" table
editAn anon user keeps adding an "overviews" cast table. Here are the problems with it:
- The only "main" characters of the series are Steven, Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl. This doesn't change over the five seasons, so no table is needed to indicate it. Certainly listing the Diamonds as "main" during season 5 is inaccurate.
- There's no principled distinction between "guest" and "recurring"; including these as separate categories in the table is OR.
- "Crossover Nexus" is an episode of a different show; it has no reason to occur in a table of Steven Universe characters.
- Steven Universe Future is not released yet, and just barely announced. To the best of my knowledge there is no information at all available yet about who is a "main character" yet; the "information" about it in this table is at best uncited and more likely just speculative.
- The main characters of Steven Universe: The Movie are Steven, Pearl, Amethyst, Garnet, and Spinel. Connie and the Diamonds are not "main" characters.
AJD (talk) 16:57, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Now that Steven Universe Future has aired: the main characters of that, according to the credits, are Steven, Garnet, Amethyst, Pearl, and Peridot. No table is needed to indicate this. AJD (talk) 19:01, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- As with all other television series character tables, Guest refers to 1-3 episodes per-season, while Recurring refers to 4+ episodes.
- Main cast refers to being credited as such (which has also applied for individual arcs, in addition to Spinel in Steven Universe: The Movie). Recurring cast refers to appearing in 4+ episodes while Guest cast refers to appearing in 1-3 episodes, as with all other television series character tables. Deedee Magno Hall is credited as Main for both Pearl and Volleyball in Steven Universe and Steven Universe Future, due to series crediting merely the actors as non-specific in their own credits; this is different in Steven Universe: The Movie, like all films.
- Crossover Nexus is as the title implies, a crossover, featuring two characters that previously appeared in Steven Universe in a main capacity (as credited for the episode): Main character Garnet, and Guest character Uncle Grandpa (from "Say Uncle"). If it did not feature Garnet there would be no reason to include it.
- Your other points will be taken onboard.
- Is there some kind of Wikipedia standard or policy somewhere that you could point me to that indicates that recurring means more than 4 episodes and guest means less than 4? I've never heard of it before, but then I've never heard of a lot of things, and I'm willing to be proved wrong.
- Main cast refers to being credited as such. The only actors credited as main cast for the show Steven Universe are Callison, Estelle, Dietz, and Hall. The only actors credited as main cast for Future are those four plus Rabara, and the only actors credited as main cast for the movie are those four plus Stiles. I don't know what you mean by "for individual arcs"; no other actors are credited as main at any time.
- This is a table of characters, not a table of actors. The fact that a minor character is played by the same actor as a main character does not make them a main character. Volleyball is not a main character. Or do you think Onion should be listed as a main character as well? Cactus Steven? Ronaldo's girlfriend Jane? Hoppy and Hopper?
- The set of characters included vs excluded in this table is somewhat arbitrary. Why is White Diamond here but not, say, Ronaldo? Aquamarine but not Buck, Jenny, and Sour Cream?
- I know that "Crossover Nexus" is a crossover. It's still not an episode of Steven Universe. The fact that Garnet appears in it is not a reason for it to be listed on a table of seasons of Steven Universe.
- AJD (talk)
Main characters' list
editIf Peridot is part of the main characters because Shelby Rabara is credited as a series regular in 'Steven Universe Future', then shouldn't Spinel be a part of it too since Sarah Stiles is part of the main cast in the movie? Kamo0606 (talk) 20:48, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think that Peridot, like Spinel, should be in the "Major supporting characters" list. Neither of them is a main character in the show Steven Universe. AJD (talk) 21:08, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- But Rabara really is credited as a series regular in 'Future', I think that's why Peridot is there... Kamo0606 (talk) 08:39, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that that's why Peridot is listed under the "main characters" heading, but I don't think it's a good reason; since she's not credited as a regular in Steven Universe, I think she should be under "major supporting characters" like Greg, Connie, etc. (And, let's face it, even though she's credited as a regular for Future she's only in like a quarter of the episodes anyway.) AJD (talk) 08:43, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- But Rabara really is credited as a series regular in 'Future', I think that's why Peridot is there... Kamo0606 (talk) 08:39, 28 February 2024 (UTC)