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Reducing article size (I)

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I read parts of the archive for: specific split discussions [1] [2] [3], a thread on organizing characters, and another on splitting, and as far as I can tell many characters were kept (and are still being added) due to personal opinion of who is and is not important. I may be ahead of myself in saying this, but I see that a large majority of the current list lacks notability, and even characters entirely unimportant (no real-world refs, nor plot relation) have recently been included. Can we discuss a definite line on what is really necessary here and carry the article with that? Spindori (talk) 14:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

List entries don't need to have notability. What we need to do is to aim at a reasonable article size, while giving due weight to each character: major characters get a whole section; secondary characters are mentioned; minor characters are left out. Back in the days, when I still found time to care for this article, I think we got fairly far. (Take a look at my last revision of the list.) Good raise 07:14, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Real problems noted. Should we then decide which characters are major, to be mentioned, and then cut the details on the others? I wouldn't imagine that to take long. Spindori (talk) 15:53, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

In response to Spindori's question, yes. I suggest that we hold a discussion on which minor characters and secondary characters listed here to be deleted, kept or merged. In this discussion, please state if the character should be kept, deleted, or merged into another article/section. Also, please provide a detailed reason for why you believe this should happen. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 16:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Also note that the recent discussion is now archived here. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to mention that rather than deleting many of the one-arc only characters outright, their info, if anything relevant, should be moved to the relevant episode/chapter lists.陣内 _Jinnai 16:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

If most of the character lists weren't merged pointlessly then this wouldn't even be a issue Gune (talk) 03:20, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we'd have 2-3 bloated character lists instead of one to deal with. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 03:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

I think you mean none at all since it was fine how it was before. Gune (talk) 19:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Just as an idea, what about showing the straw hats, and any characters not part of or not shown only as part of any particular group or syndicate, on this page, and making new pages, then linking to seperate pages for other groups, like cp-9 or baroque works, listing them in this page, but also mentioning briefly various characters that were former members (nico robin for example, in baroque works). For example:

straw hat crew monkey d. luffy: blahblahblah roronoa zolo : blahblahblah nami: blahblahblah etc.

characters not in any organization: sir croc: blahblahblah bon clay: blahblahblah crocus: blahblahblah gol d. roger: blahblahblah etc.

labeled link to page for cp-9 labeled link to baroque works etc.

Jds500 (talk) 23:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

WP:SS infact suggests organizing information that way. However, pages that don't make considerable use of third-party sources tend to have fairly short lifespans on Wikipedia. Way back, we had dozens of articles dealing with nothing but One Piece characters. They're gone now, and without third-party sources, they won't return. Good raise 03:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

ahhh well.... why not use the sources from this article? they should work right? Jds500 (talk) 22:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Target size

Discussing how much space should be used for which character is pretty pointless, unless we first get to a consensus on how big this page should be. Based on WP:SIZERULE, I'd say we should aim for a size of 80 to 90 kilobyte. Would that be acceptable? Good raise 00:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I have no objections to this limit. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:21, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I am without much feel for how large kilobytes are, but near half the current 246 kb of text should be gone after dealing with characters. I planned to do necessary trimming after that excess was dealt with so maybe 10 kb more will be rid after that. I will agree with anything less than 110 kb, but I do not project the list to be much smaller than that. Spindori (talk) 14:13, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Straw poll

Mr. 4

Resolved

– To be mentioned in the Baroque Works section.

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. He has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention among the Baroque Works agents. His small role doesn't merit anything more. Good raise 01:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Mr. 5

Resolved

– To be mentioned in the Baroque Works section.

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. He has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove from the list. I wasn't thinking when I made most of these (a mistake). Mr. 5 only appears during the Little Garden arc, and it by itself is too minor to accredit any casted character (the very reason the two giants aren't listed). Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention among the Baroque Works agents. His small role doesn't merit anything more. Good raise 02:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge, Even though he was the main antagonist to the Whisky Peak arc and a supporting antagonist to the Little Garden arc, he is nothing more after that. Both Mr. 5 and Miss Valentine should be merged into the Baroque Works section. - SuperTiencha (talk) 01:22, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Mr. 7

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. He has a one appearance end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him. He stood at the bomb to light it, and was snuffed out immediately. No reason he was there besides that, story doesn't need him. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He was a Frontier Agent of Frontier Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. This guy's role is so tiny, even mentioning him would be too much. Good raise 02:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Mr. 9

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. He has only two appearances. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove from the list. Mr. 9 is truly unconsequential to the story, and needs not the mention. He only tags along Vivi at one point, and her character is unaffected by him. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He was a Frontier Agent of Frontier Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. He's a minor character with no importance to the overall storyline. He is neither recurring nor the main villain of an arc. Even his role within BW is small, being merely a frontier agent. Good raise 22:40, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Mr. 11

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. He has a one appearance end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove from the list. He was captured in a few pages/seconds, and that's the last he had. The story never needed him. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He was a Frontier Agent of Frontier Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. This guy's role is so tiny, even mentioning him would be too much. Good raise 02:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Mr. 13

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. It only has two appearances. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. The weasel-guy drew pictures and later was quickly defeated before he did anything. He acts more as comic relief than as a noteworthy character. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He was a Frontier Agent of Frontier Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Aisa

Resolved

– To be removed from the list.

Remove her from the list. She is only a minor chracaters in the Skypiea arc, too minor for her own section. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She helped the Straw Hat Pirates throughout the entire "Skypiea arc". She deserves her own section. Rico70
Delete - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Akainu

Resolved

– To be covered in a section of his own.

Keep, has a role as a major character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention in a section summarizing either the three admirals or the Navy as a whole. His only significant appearance is during the rescue of Ace. His high rank and his actions during said appearance make it likely that he will make more appearances in future chapters, but right now -- and that is what matters -- his role is simply too small to consider him major. He has appeared in how many of the currently published chapters (~600)? Six? Maybe twelve? Good raise 06:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of three powerful Admirals of the marines, and he killed Portgas D. Ace. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge - can be mentioned under Buggy's subordinates.陣内_Jinnai 16:13, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think you may be confusing something here. Akainu isn't a subordinate of Buggy, but an admiral in the navy of the World Government. Good raise 00:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep same reasons as Sjones23. Gune (talk) 03:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Sjones23. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Alvida

Resolved

– To be mentioned among Buggy's followers.

Merge, can be mentioned in Buggy's section and has importance initially as a major character. She is later reduced to a secondary character Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention among the followers of Buggy. She may have been a major character during the first one or two volumes, but, considering the current size of the series, she is little more than a minor character. Only two points speak against removing every mention of her: She was the main antagonist during her arc (however small that arc may have been) and she keeps making occasional appearances. Good raise 08:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is part of the Buggy Pirates. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge - can be mentioned under Buggy's subordinates.陣内 _Jinnai 16:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Amazon

Resolved

– To be removed from the list.

Remove her, a character used less than Aisa definately needs not a mention. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is the gatekeeper of Skypiea. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Delete - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Aokiji

Resolved

– To be covered in a section of his own.

Merge with other navy admirals. He lacks significant self-importance, but has key appearances in multiple story arcs. Spindori (talk) 13:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep him in a separate section. If it looks better, I could live with him being stuffed into a paragraph with the other admirals, but only if the prose is not reduced any further. He plays an important role in Robin's past and has made regular appearances ever since his introduction. If any admiral should be kept separate, it is him. Good raise 13:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep per Goodraise's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of three powerful Admirals of the marines, and he killed Portgas D. Ace. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep - agree with all of Goodraise's points.陣内 _Jinnai 16:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep For same reasons as mentioned already. Gune (talk) 03:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep He plays a major role in the series. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Scratchman Apoo

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Scratchman Apoo does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Delete, Minor character who is not notable to have his section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. He and his "supernova" friends made fans go crazy, but their actual screen time so far has been close to non-existent. Good raise 13:50, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete - minor character.陣内 _Jinnai 16:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Aswa

Resolved

– Aswa should not have her section

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove her from the list. I've seen and read her arc countless times, but the name is new to me. Is it from one of the data books or the anime credits? Seriously, this character is minor even among the minor characters. Good raise 13:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment - I think it is from the anime credits when I checked on it. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is Koza's mother and Toto's wife. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete - mention in relevant chapters/episodes.陣内 _Jinnai 16:20, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove her. Why would she need to be here? She does nothing, and as far as most readers know and/or care, she is nothing. This list is meant to detail the characters who are necessary to understand the story. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Van Auger

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Blackbeard

Merge, can be mentioned in Blackbeard's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention among Blackbeard's followers, because that's what he is, and nothing more (...at least for now). Good raise 13:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge - can be mentioned under Blackbeard's subordinates.陣内 _Jinnai 16:21, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Jean Bart

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Jean Bart does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove, minor character who becomes the follower of another unimportant character. If and when Law becomes significant enough for his own section, Bart can be mentioned among his followers. Good raise 14:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Heart Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete - minor character.陣内 _Jinnai 16:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Ben Beckman

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Shanks

Merge, can be mentioned in Shanks' section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention among Shanks' followers. If anyone sees anything significant about him, speak up. I don't. Good raise 14:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Red-Haired Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge for now - It's possible he may become more important later.陣内 _Jinnai 16:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Capone Bege

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Capone Bege does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Remove, though I believe a concensus over the Supernovas was reached at Apoo, he still must be addressed here. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into the Supernovas section - an extremely minor character who has appeared in only one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Good raise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Bepo

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Bepo does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him for the same reason as Jean Bart. Good raise 14:42, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Heart Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete - minor character.陣内 _Jinnai 16:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Blamenco

Resolved

– Blamenco deleted.

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention among Whitebeard's followers or remove him completely, because Newgate's men are so numerous and Blamenco is certainly among the less prominent. Good raise 14:45, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the sixth division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete - Only the more important of Whitebeard's subordinates should be noted.陣内 _Jinnai 16:26, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
DELETE He is NO MORE prominent than any of the commanders 7-16. Prolly even less, since HIS NAME WASN'T EVEN MENTIONED in the manga. 75.80.62.50 (talk) 15:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Remove; I disagree with so much as mentioning a nameless character such as he. This is a list for comprehension, not a reference for trivia. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Blueno

Resolved

– Blueno's section is to be merged into CP9 section.

Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group seems wholy unimportant. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group is very important, as they're the main antagonist of three consecutive story arcs, but their individual roles aren't that big. Also, the characters are similar in many ways and don't really act independently of the group, so I'd say they should all be covered in a single section. Good raise 01:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is a member of the CP9. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete with appropriate mentions in CP9's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Jewelry Bonney

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Jewelry Bonney does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Remove, though I believe a concensus over the Supernovas was reached at Apoo, she still must be addressed here. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, she is one of the Eleven Supernovas. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Delete per Spindori's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove her from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Good raise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Braham

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Braham does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Mention him and the other Shandians under Wyper. They are all forgotten during the arc they appear in, minor roles. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove would actually be a better call. Skypiea may have been one of the larger arcs, but the minor characters still do not need to be included, do they. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is a Shandorian warrior. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge with appropriate mentions per Spindori's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Delete -- an extremely minor background character who is involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Big Bun

Resolved

– Big Bun should not have his section

Remove him from the list, or mention under Foxy. The arc was a small one and Foxy is the only member who really needs to be kept. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is part of the Foxy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete or Merge under Foxy's section per Spindori's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. He is a minor character, only created for a single fight/game. I'd say mention him among Foxy's followers, but that crew is so large that going for completeness in this case would result in bloat. The only characters from that crew that should be mentioned are Porche and Hamburg. Good raise 13:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Bunchi

Resolved

– Bunchi should not be included in this section, and should be deleted

Remove a minor character who appears in just one panel, give or take. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He was part of Baroque Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete - unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. An oversized turtle used for transportation, that all he is. He's got no role, no text, and no importance. Good raise 13:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge with the Baroque Works section, or Remove him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Jesus Burgess

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Blackbeard

Merge, can be mentioned in Blackbeard's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention among Blackbeard's followers for the same reason as Van Auger. Good raise 14:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge - can be mentioned under Bleackbeard's subordinates.陣内 _Jinnai 16:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Butchie

Resolved

– Butchie deleted and merged into Kuro's section

Merge, can be mentioned in Kuro's section and has importance as a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention him among Kuro's followers or remove him completely. @Sjones23: What importance are you talking about? He's a colorless cannon fodder character. Good raise 14:50, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

To answer your question, Goodraise, his importances is an extremely minor background character who is not notable in the series itself and only appears in a few stories in a single arc. Therefore, his character is unimportant to the storyline. Hope this clears everything up and I apologize if I have caused any confusion. I understand your words, Goodraise. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Comment. But does Kuro need to be mentioned either? I think that should probably be discussed in his section first. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Keep -- He is part of the Black Cat Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge into Kuro's section. The Meowban Brothers had no significance on their own. - SuperTiencha (talk) 01:47, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Cabaji

Resolved

– Cabaji merged into Buggy's section

Merge, can be mentioned in Buggy's section and has importance as a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention among Buggy's followers, because that's what he is, and nothing more. Good raise 23:07, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the second mate of the Buggy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge - can be mentioned under Buggy's subordinates.陣内 _Jinnai 16:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Camie

Resolved

– Camie merged into Hatchan's section

Mention with Hatchan if he keeps his own section. Camie is a minor character with a minimal role. Spindori (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete with appropriate mentions in Hatchan's section if it is kept. She serves as a minor background character for one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention with Hatchan, if his section is kept. Anything more would be too much for her small part in the story. Good raise 23:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is an important character. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge - significantly trim down and mention her role in the storyarc with Hatchman.陣内 _Jinnai 16:31, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove She is too minor to have her own section. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Capote

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Capote does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Remove him from the list, or mention under Foxy. The arc was a small one and Foxy is the only member who really needs to be kept. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is part of the Foxy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete or mention under Foxy's section - unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Chaka

Resolved

– Chaka is to be deleted

Merge, can be mentioned in Alabasta's section and has importance as a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. His role is even smaller than that of Pell. Both are merely secondary characters within their own arc. Their importance to One Piece as a whole is minor. Good raise 23:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the two head guards of Alabasta. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge - mention under Arabasta section with Pell. While he is a secondary character within one story arc, that story arc is a major one and the first major story arc.陣内 _Jinnai 16:34, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove. If we kept him, we'd say "Oh, yeah!" and find nothing informative about it. Chaka fails the basic test of character importance, so I say nay. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Chess

Resolved

– Chess should not have his section, and is to be deleted.

Mention Wapol's henchman fighter under Wapol. Just one fight, no development, only thing kepping him is that Wapol led one arc. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove since Wapol actually isn't worth mentioning. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of Wapol's subordinates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Wapol's section. He is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Choo

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Arlong

Mention Arlong's henchman fighter under Arlong. Just one fight, no development, only thing kepping him is that Arlong led one arc. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is part of the Arlong Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Arlong's section. He is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Nefertari Cobra

Resolved

– Nefertari Cobra deleted with appropriate mentions in Vivi's section

Merge, can be mentioned in Vivi's section and has importance as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention in Vivi's section, if it fits in there without sounding awkward, remove him completely otherwise. His importance is no greater than that of Chaka and Pell, limited to a single arc. Good raise 23:21, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the king of Alabasta, and Nefertari Vivi's father. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge - mention under Vivi.陣内 _Jinnai 16:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Coby

Resolved

– Should be covered in a section of his own.

Merge, can be mentioned in Garp's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
~~Mention~~ him in Garp's section. He's made a bunch of appearances recently and will probably make more in future chapters, but his role is way too small for a section of his own (even though he and Helmeppo had two whole episodes to themselves). Someday he might merit a section, but not now. Good raise 23:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep. That "someday" I spoke of is now. Good raise 16:58, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep He was one of the first characters introduced in the series, and the first person to meet Luffy. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep in a separate section. I sympathize most with Goodraise, but Coby isn't really a back character to anyone and shouldn't be just mentioned under some other character's name. He deserves to stay in the article, given all of his appearnces, but as a standalone would be the best way to do it. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Conis

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of her own.

Mention somewhere under Skypiea. Not sure how to categorize, help? Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She helped the Straw Hat Pirates throughout the entire "Skypiea arc", and she is Pagaya's daughter. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge into Skypiea's section. She is a minor character who has appeared in one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention somehwere. Good raise 03:04, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Crocus

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Crocus does not meet requirements for his section, and is to be deleted

Merge, can be mentioned in Shanks' section. He is a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete - unimportant background character who appears in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Delete, he has little importance and only supports other characters. modified own reply 18:51, 29 July 2010 (UTC) Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. If he gets mentioned somewhere, fine, but don't force him in. He has connections to various characters, but plays no significant role himself. Good raise 23:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is a very important character. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove -- Not important just because of frequency of appearances, not really a developed character. What we're concerned about here is the character's centrality to the work, not their importance in an in-universe context. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 03:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep He used to be one of the "Roger Pirates", and the caretaker of Laboon, which plays a major role in Brook's past. Crocus is an important character. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Catalina Devon

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Blackbeard

Delete, Minor character who is not notable to have her section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention among Blackbeard's followers, not because she's too important to remove completely, but to cover Blackbeard comprehensively. Good raise 23:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Doberman

Resolved

– Consensus is to remove less important character from article

Remove, or mention in a possible Vice Admirals section. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the powerful Vice Admirals of the marines, and he and four other Vice Admirals led the Buster Call on Enies Lobby. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Vice Admirals section. He is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Miss Doublefinger

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish character within Baroque Works section

Mention with Daz Bonez and a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works with appropriate mentions in Daz Bonez's section. She is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Monkey D. Dragon

Resolved

– Dragon should be mentioned, but he should not be covered in a section of his own just yet.

Merge, can be mentioned in the Revolutionaries' section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
This is a borderline case. I see the day coming, when I'll advocate his personal section, but that time has not yet come. Simply mentioning him would be too little though. He should be covered in a few sentences at least. Good raise 23:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the leader of the Revolutionaries, the world's most wanted person, and he is the father of Monkey D. Luffy. He is a very important character who deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge - While important to the main character in the universe, he's not necessarily important for the average reader to understand the plot. Mentioning him in a larger context would be better. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 03:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

X. Drake

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that X. Drake does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Merge, can be mentioned in the 11 Supernovas' section and is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Good raise 02:18, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Eneru

Resolved

– Consensus is that Eneru should have his section, and should be kept

Keep the main enemy of a major arc in a separate section. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the main antagonist of the "Skypiea arc". He is an important character who deserves his own section. Rico70
Keep. He is the main antagonist of a major arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, if Eneru isn't a major character, then I don't know who is. Why did you add this section? Good raise 20:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Comment. Eneru was removed twice before (I believe), so I worried it may happen again. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Keep He may only appears in one arc ("Skypiea arc"), but he is a major antagonist. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Miss Father's Day

Resolved

– Consensus is that Miss Father's Day does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one appearance end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove on agreement with Goodraise. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She was a Frontier Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works. She is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Delete per Goodraise's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove her from the list. For the same reason as her partner, Mr. 7. Good raise 13:49, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Miss Friday

Resolved

– Miss Friday should not be kept, and is to be deleted

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. It only has two appearances. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove also on agreement with Goodraise. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She was a Frontier Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works. She is unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Delete per Goodraise's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove her completely. She definitely isn't a major character and hence should not have a section of her own. We could mention her among Baroque Works' agents, but "frontier agent" basically means "second row follower". These characters should be removed just as much as the "Whitebeard Allies". Good raise 20:10, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Fukuro

Resolved

– Fukuro merged into CP9

Merge, can be mentioned in Cipher Pol No. 9's section and is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is a member of the CP9. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention him in a section about Cipher Pol No. 9. He is one of the less prominent members of the group. He only serves as the source of a few gags and as cannon fodder, and has no real importance to the story. Good raise 04:54, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Fullbody

Resolved

– Fullbody deleted with appropriate mentions in Jango's section.

Delete, Minor character who is not notable to have his section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. He is somewhat of a recurring character, but all of his appearances are very brief. He could be mentioned in Hina's section (if it is kept), but covering him in a whole section total overkill of such a minor character. Good raise 07:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention in Jango's section. He is recurring but he's too minor for him to be on his own. - SuperTiencha (talk) 21:09, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Gan Fall

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Mention somewhere under Skypiea. Not sure how to categorize, help? Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He helped the Straw Hat Pirates throughout the entire "Skypiea arc", and he is the current "God" of Skypiea. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Skypiea as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention somewhere. Good raise 03:13, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Gedatsu

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Eneru

Mention ~~in a section on the Priests like before~~ under Eneru. Their group is comparable to the CP9. (modified 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)) Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Skypiea Priests, who serves under Eneru. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into ~~a section on the Priests~~ Eneru's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention among Eneru's followers. He's more a member of that group than an important character in his own right. Good raise 13:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Genbo

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Genbo does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Mention him and the other Shandians under Wyper. They are all forgotten during the arc they appear in, minor roles. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove would actually be a better call. Skypiea may have been one of the larger arcs, but the minor characters still do not need to be included, do they. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is a Shandorian warrior. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into the Shandians as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Delete - extremely minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Ghin

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Merge, can be mentioned in Kreig's section. He is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the first mate of the Krieg Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention him in Krieg's section. He is minor, but I wouldn't call him a "background character". His role in the Baratie arc isn't that small. In fact, it's almost as big as that of Krieg himself. Good raise 08:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove since Kreig actually isn't worth mentioning. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Merge, not significant enough to be his own section but he is definitely worth mentioning in Don Krieg's section since he was played a major role in the Baratie Arc. - SuperTiencha (talk) 02:33, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Miss Golden Week

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Mention with Galdino and a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove per my reasoning for Mr. 5. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge into Baroque Works as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Delete with appropriate mentions in Galdino's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hamburg

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Remove him from the list, or mention under Foxy. The arc was a small one and Foxy is the only member who really needs to be kept. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is part of the Foxy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Foxy's section or Delete; he serves as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hannyabal

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish character within Impel Down section

Merge, he can be mentioned in Impel Down's section. He is a secondary character. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is part of the Impel Down personnel. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention him in a section on Impel Down's personal. He only appears in a single story arc, and even there he plays merely a secondary role. Good raise 01:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hatchan

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Hatchan should have his section, and is to be kept

Keep him in a separate section. He appears somewhat strongly in two/three separate arcs and acts more independantly than as a follower to any one character. Spindori (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is an important character. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Spindori. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Basil Hawkins

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Basil Hawkins does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Merge, can be mentioned in the 11 Supernovas' section. He is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Good raise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Helmeppo

Resolved

– Helmeppo is to be kept as a section.

Merge, can be mentioned in Garp's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hina

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Hina should not have her section, and is to be deleted.

Delete, Minor character who is not notable to have her section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is one of the stronger marines. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Igaram

Resolved

– Igaram is to be deleted and merged into the Alabasta section.

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the commander of the Alabasta Royal Guard, and Terracotta's husband. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention under an Alabasta section. Igaram may not have so much screentime, but he is pretty important at the beginning and end of the arc? Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge into the Alabasta section. He isn't significant enough on his own. - SuperTiencha (talk) 19:54, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Inazuma

Resolved

– Inazuma should be merged with either the section of Ivankov or the section of the Revolutionary Army.

Merge, can be mentioned in the Revolutionaries' section. He initially serves as a major character who is later reduced to a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Revolutionary commanders. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge with Ivankov. He or she serves as Ivankov's sidekick as far as the story is concerned. That (or maybe in the Revolutionary Army's section) is where he or she should be mentioned, if mentioned at all. Good raise 21:08, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Ivankov

Resolved

– Should be mentioned in the Revolutionaries' section.

Merge, can be mentioned in the Revolutionaries' section. He initially serves as a major character who is later reduced to a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Revolutionary commanders, and queen of the Kamabakka Queendom. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention in the Revolutionaries' section. He'll certainly get more action once Dragon "makes his move", but right now his part is simply too small for a section of his own. Good raise 21:36, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Jabra

Resolved

– Jabra merged into CP9

Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group seems wholy unimportant. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is a member of the CP9. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into CP9 as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Kaido

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Kaido is not notable enough to have his section, and is to be deleted.

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Four Emperors. He is an important character who deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention him in the Four Emperors' section, since I don't think he is important to the happenings in the story. Characters are mentioned when they are active and necessary, Kaido only has a high (in-universe) status, as of my knowledge. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove. Eh, siding with Sjones here. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Kaku

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under CP9

Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group seems wholy unimportant. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is a member of the CP9. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into CP9 as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Kalifa

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under CP9

Merge, can be mentioned in Cipher Pol No. 9's section and is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is a member of the CP9. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Kamakiri

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Kamakiri does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Mention him and the other Shandians under Wyper. They are all forgotten during the arc they appear in, minor roles. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove would actually be a better call. Skypiea may have been one of the larger arcs, but the minor characters still do not need to be included, do they. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is a Shandorian warrior. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into the Shandians section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Delete - extremely minor background character who is involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Karoo

Resolved

– Karoo merged into Vivi's section

Merge, can be mentioned in Vivi's section and is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is Nefertari Vivi's pet, and was included in four arcs. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge with Vivi's section, or Mention in Vivi's section. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Eustass Kid

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Eustass Kid does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Merge, can be mentioned in the 11 Supernovas' section. He is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Good raise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Killer

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Killer does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Good raise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Kizaru

Resolved

– Kizaru should have his section, and should be kept

Keep, has a role as a major character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge with other navy admirals. He lacks importance and should be mentioned only as a minor character. Spindori (talk) 13:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of three powerful Admirals of the marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep As an character who is important to the story he deserves his own section. Gune (talk) 03:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Sjones23. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Koza

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is Vivi's childhood friend, was leader of the Alabasta Rebel Army, and son of Toto and Aswa. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge into the Alabasta Kingdom section. Koza is definitely not important enough to be his own section but definitely should be mentioned in the Alabasta section because he was significant to the plot of the Alabasta arc.— Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperTiencha (talk • contribs) 01:23, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Mention somewhere. Good raise 12:26, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Kumadori

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under CP9

Merge, can be mentioned in Cipher Pol No. 9's section and has importance as a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is a member of the CP9. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Kuro

Resolved

– Kuro should be kept as a section.

Delete, a minor character involved in only one story arc. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:47, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the captain of the Black Cat Pirates, and the main antagonist of the "Kuro arc". He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep He played a big role in the series. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

He's only as important as Kreig (89.126.59.159 (talk) 16:10, 22 June 2011 (UTC))

Keep, He was the main antagonist to the Kuro arc. He also has appeared in many video games. - SuperTiencha (talk) 01:10, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Kuromarimo

Resolved

– Kuromarino should not have his section, and is to be deleted.

Mention Wapol's henchman fighter under Wapol. Just one fight, no development, only thing keeping him is that Wapol led one arc. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove since Wapol actually isn't worth mentioning. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of Wapol's subordinates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete with appropriate mentions in Wapol's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Kuroobi

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Arlong

Mention Arlong's henchman fighter under Arlong. Just one fight, no development, only thing keeping him is that Arlong led one arc. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is part of the Arlong Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete with appropriate mentions in Arlong's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:21, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Lafitte

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Blackbeard

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Laki

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Laki does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Mention her and the other Shandians under Wyper. They are all forgotten during the arc they appear in, minor roles. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove would actually be a better call. Skypiea may have been one of the larger arcs, but the minor characters still do not need to be included, do they. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is a Shandorian warrior. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Delete with appropriate mentions in Wyper's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:21, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Lasso

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Remove from this list. It is a pet/weapon, not worth notice. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He was part of Baroque Works. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete. He serves as an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge with either Mr. 4's section or the Baroque Works section, or Keep him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Trafalgar Law

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Trafalgar Law does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Merge, can be mentioned in the 11 Supernovas' section, or delete. He is an unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Good raise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Rob Lucci

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under CP9

Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group seems wholy unimportant. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep* -- He is the strongest member of the CP9, and one of the main antagonist of the "Enies Lobby arc". He is an important character who deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into CP9 section per the above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep He played a major role in the series as a main antagonist. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Magellan

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish character within Impel Down section

Merge, can be mentioned in the Impel Down section. He is a major character for only one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the Chief Warden of Impel Down, and the main antagonist of the "Impel Down arc". He is an important who deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep He played a major role in the series as a main antagonist. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Marco

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Whitebeard

Merge into Whitebeard's section with mentions in it and he serves as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the first division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

McKinley

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Mention somewhere under Skypiea. Not sure how to categorize, help? Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him for the list. I wouldn't think the White Barets have much or any story development. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the commander of the White Berets. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into the Skypiea section as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Delete - the White Barets do not have enough story development, and therefore McKinley is not notable to be included here. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Miss Merry Christmas

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish character within Baroque Works section

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge into the Baroque Works section as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention as member of Baroque Works. No significance on her own. Good raise 22:11, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Mohji

Resolved

– Mohji merged into Buggy's section

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the first mate of the Buggy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Momoo

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is a pet and part of the Arlong Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge with the Arlong Pirates section, or Keep him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him because he is a pet. He doesn't touch the story more than any other nameless fighter in the arc. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Miss Monday

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Miss Monday should not have her section, and is to be deleted

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one appearance end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove from the list. Miss Monday is truly unconsequential to the story, and needs not the mention. She only tags along Igaram at one point, and his character is unaffected by her. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She was a Frontier Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Delete with appropriate mentions in the Baroque Works section. extremely unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Nezumi

Resolved

– Consensus has determined that Nezumi should not have his section, and is to be deleted

Delete, a minor character involved in only one story arc. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:47, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines, and he gave Luffy his first bounty. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Ohm

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Eneru

Mention ~~in a section on the Priests like before~~ under Eneru. Their group is comparable to the CP9. (modified 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)) Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Skypiea Priests, who serves under Eneru. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete with appropriate mentions in ~~Priests~~ Eneru's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention among Eneru's followers. He's more a member of that group than an important character in his own right. Good raise 13:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Onigumo

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Merge, more notable with Momonga, a section on the Vice Admirals can be created. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the powerful Vice Admirals of the marines, and he and four other Vice Admirals led the Buster Call on Enies Lobby. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Pagaya

Resolved

– Pagaya is too minor a character to be given his own section.

Mention somewhere under Skypiea. Not sure how to categorize, help? Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He helped the Straw Hat Pirates throughout the entire "Skypiea arc", and he is Conis's father. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove from the list. He's a minor character in the one arc he appears in. To the series as a whole (which we are trying to cover with this list), he's almost totally unimportant. Good raise 21:27, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Delete, minor character appearing in one story arc. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:35, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Pandaman

Resolved

– Pandaman need not be mentioned.

Remove him from the list. As the section about him currently states, he's a character "whose actions apparently don't affect the main plot at all." And that's still an understatement. He has yet to affect any plot of the series. Good raise 20:40, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Delete - Agree with the concerns by Goodraise. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:30, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Pappagu

Resolved

– Pappagu merged into Hatchan's section

Mention with Hatchan if Camie gets a mention. He has the least pull of the three characters but still is seen whenever Camie is. Spindori (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Delete with appropriate mentions in Hatchan's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is an important character. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove He is too minor to have his own section. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Pearl

Resolved

– Pearl should be mentioned as one of Krieg's followers.

Merge, can be mentioned in Kreig's section. He is a secondary character and is not notable. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the second mate of the Krieg Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove along with Kreig since he likely won't be staying. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Merge into Don Krieg's section since he is one of his two major crew members. - SuperTiencha (talk) 02:33, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Mention as one of Krieg's followers. Good raise 00:02, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Pell

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Delete, a minor character involved in only one story arc. He can be appropriately mentioned in the Alabasta section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:20, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the two head guards of Alabasta. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge - under the Arabasta section with Chaka.陣内 _Jinnai 16:41, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove. See Chaka. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Merge into the Alabasta Kingdom section. Pell definitely played more of a major role in the Alabasta arc among most of the other Alabasta residents. - SuperTiencha (talk) 01:32, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Mention somewhere. Good raise 12:22, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Pickles

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Remove him from the list, or mention under Foxy. The arc was a small one and Foxy is the only member who really needs to be kept. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is part of the Foxy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete or Merge into Foxy's section as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Abalo Pizarro

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Blackbeard

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Porche

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Remove her from the list, or mention under Foxy. The arc was a small one and Foxy is the only member who really needs to be kept. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is part of the Foxy Pirates. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Delete or Merge into Foxy's section as a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Purinpurin

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He was one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Even though he got killed, I think he should keep his section. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Doc Q

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Blackbeard

Merge, can be mentioned in Blackbeard's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Richie

Resolved

– Richie merged into Buggy's section

Merge, can be mentioned in Buggy's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep-- He is Mohji's pet, and part of the Buggy Pirates. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge with Mohji's section, or Keep him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Robson

Resolved

– Consensus has been established that Robson does not meet requirements to have his section, and is to be deleted

Remove a minor character used for transportation without a role. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is Wapol's pet White Walkie. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete; an extremely unimportant background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. Not much of a character. Rather just a means of transportation. Good raise 02:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge with Wapol's section, or Keep him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Rockstar

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Merge, can be mentioned in Shanks' section. He is a background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Red-Haired Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove. I get more of a "Which one's that?" about this character. Really, Shanks can live on his own, and we're adding to him. We don't need to advocate every subordinate, like this unrecognized one. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Remove or mention among Shanks followers. All he's done so far is deliver a message. Good raise 22:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Lucky Roux

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Merge, can be mentioned in Shanks' section. He is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Red-Haired Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove. Again, I get more of a "Which one's that?" about this character. Really, Shanks can live on his own, and we're adding to him. We don't need to advocate every subordinate, like this unrecognized one. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Merge, He should be mentioned in Shanks' section since he isn't much on his own. - SuperTiencha (talk) 01:25, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Mention somewhere. Good raise 03:31, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Sadie

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish character within Impel Down section

Merge, can be mentioned in Impel Down's section. She is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is part of the Impel Down personnel. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Saldeath

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish character within Impel Down section

Merge, he can be mentioned in Impel Down's section. He is a secondary character. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is part of the Impel Down personnel. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

San Juan Wolf

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Blackbeard

Mention him among Blackbeard's followers. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Blackbeard's section per the above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention him among Blackbeard's followers for completeness. He himself hasn't done anything of importance to the story yet and the screentime he's had so far was little to none. Good raise 16:57, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sarquiss

Resolved

– Sarquiss deleted and merged into Doflamingo's section

Mention perhaps under Doflamingo. I never understood how he fractioned out in the Jaya arc, but I think he was part of Doflamingo's crew. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove since Bellamy just barely managed a mention (in my opinion), and Sarquiss is clearly less important than the other. Hardly rings in the "Oh, yeah!"; doesn't need to be here at all. Spindori (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the first mate of the Bellamy Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into Doflamingo's section per the above. He serves as a secondary character in one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention next to Bellamy. Certainly not a candidate for a whole section. His role is simply too small. Good raise 16:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Satori

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Eneru

Mention ~~in a section on the Priests like before~~ under Eneru. Their group is comparable to the CP9. (modified 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)) Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Skypiea Priests, who serves under Eneru. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into the ~~Priests~~ Eneru section per the above. He serves as a secondary character in one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention among Eneru's followers. He's more a member of that group than an important character in his own right. Good raise 13:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sengoku

Resolved

– Sengoku should have his section, and should be kept

Keep, has a role as a major character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the Fleet Admiral of the marines, and the main antagonist of the "Marineford arc". He is a very important character who deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep his section. Seeing as his role has increased significantly in recent chapters, I can now live with him getting a whole section. Good raise 16:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Sjones23. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Sentomaru

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Remove from the list. Sentomaru does not have a large enough role to merit a mention; his summary is also currently of an unacceptable level. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list, since his role is too small for a section of his own and I don't see where he could be mentioned without it looking out of place. Good raise 05:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the head of the Marines' Science Unit, and bodyguard of Vegapunk. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Delete per Spindori's reasoning. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 16:22, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Shiryu

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Blackbeard

Merge, can be mentioned in Blackbeard's section. He is a secondary character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention him in Blackbeard's section, and perhaps in the Impel Down section as well. His role so far has been minimal. No doubt that he'll show up again, but at this time he just hasn't earned a section of his own. Good raise 05:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Vasco Shot

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Blackbeard

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention him among Blackbeard's followers for the sake of comprehensiveness. Good raise 16:45, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Shu

Resolved

– Shu does not meet requirements to have his section

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. He wrecked a sword... Did he do anything else? Very minor character. Good raise 07:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Shura

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Eneru

Mention ~~in a section on the Priests like before~~ under Eneru. Their group is comparable to the CP9. (modified 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)) Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Skypiea Priests, who serves under Eneru. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Merge into ~~Priests~~ Eneru's section per the above. He serves as a secondary character in one arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention among Eneru's followers. He's more a member of that group than an important character in his own right. Good raise 13:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Siam

Resolved

– Should not be covered in a section of his own.

Merge, can be mentioned in Kuro's section or Delete altogether. He is an unimportant minor background character who is not notable to have his section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is part of the Black Cat Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention him as a follower of Kuro. He is cannon fodder, with no importance to the overall story. Good raise 07:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge, both him and Butchy should be mentioned in Kuro's section. The Meowban Brothers aren't significant enought to be on there own. - SuperTiencha (talk) 01:14, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Smoker

Resolved

– Consensus is that Smoker should have his section, and should be kept

Keep, he has leading role in one story arc and reappears in two later arcs. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:47, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep him separate or perhaps merge his section with that of Tashigi (see my comment there). He is a prominent recurring character and the leading antagonist of the (admittedly short) arc he was introduced in. Anything less than half a paragraph would be too little for this character. Good raise 18:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Spindori. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Spandam

Resolved

– Spandam merged into CP9

Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. The group seems wholy unimportant. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention in a section on Cipher Pol No. 9. (As per my comment on Blueno.) Good raise 03:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the boss of the CP9, and one of the main antagonist of the "Enies Lobby arc". He is an important character who deserves his own section.
Merge into CP9 section per the above reasonings by Spindori and Goodraise. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep His role is very important in the series as being part of Franky's past, and as a major antagonist. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Strawberry

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the powerful Vice Admirals of the marines, and he and four other Vice Admirals led the Buster Call on Enies Lobby. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. He's a minor character, only involved in one arc and, as far as I know, his name is only given in one of the data books. Good raise 18:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Stronger

Resolved

– Consensus is that Stronger should be merged with Doc Q in Blackbeard's section

Merge, can be mentioned in Blackbeard's section and has importance as an extremely minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Blackbeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention along with Doc Q. He's a sickly horse. Period. No need to cover him in a section of his own. Good raise 16:47, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge with Doc Q's section, or Keep him. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Tashigi

Resolved

– Consensus is to mention under Smoker, given a detailed character description

Merge, she can be mentioned in Smoker's section. She has relevance only to him. Spindori (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Merge per above. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:47, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm somewhat on the fence with her. Simply mentioning her would be too little, because she's more than just another cannon fodder character without depth tagging along her captain. She should be covered in a few sentences at least and I'm not sure that it's appropriate to discuss a character in such detail in the section of another character. If she can be covered in Smoker's section without cutting too much prose and without slanting his section toward her, then I'm all for it. Or perhaps the resulting section could be made to cover both equally, as was the case with Camie and Pappagu at one time. Good raise 16:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I wish to echo Goodraise's comments here. It is likely, like Smoker, her role will only increase in importance as the story advances.陣内 _Jinnai 16:43, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is one of the stronger marines. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Keep She is an important character. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

T-Bone

Resolved

– Consensus is that the unnecessary character should be removed

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. He's nothing but a cannon fodder character. Beyond that, he's not even relevant to the one arc he appears in. Good raise 04:53, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Terracotta

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Terracotta should not keep her section

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She is Igaram's wife. She deserves her own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove her from the list. She's a minor character with no importance even to the story of the arc she appears in. Good raise 16:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Thatch

Resolved

– Consensus is that the character is unnecessary and should be removed

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list or perhaps mention him in White- and/or Blackbeard's sections. He's the guy Blackbeard killed and that's it. Very minor character. Good raise 04:28, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He was the fourth division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep He plays a major role as part of Blackbeard's past, and when he was killed, it was the whole reason Ace tried to get revenge against Blackbeard. Ace hunted for Blackbeard for about 200 episodes for that reason. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Blackbeard stayed low and on Whitebeards ship in the hopes of finding the Yami Yami no Mi. Thatch found it. Blackbeard killed him, stole it, and ran off. That's Blackbeard's past. All of it. Thatch is the guy who got killed. And that he got killed (which is something he didn't do, it's something Blackbeard did) is in fact the reason for something Ace has been doing for some amount of time. Though I don't know how you came up with those 200 episodes, because for the grand majority of that time, Ace was—and I can't help but find that important to note—offscreen. Good raise 00:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Because in the manga, preceeding each chapter, the author usually has a picture involving various characters doing various things, but often the pictures make up a sub story. Ace's search for blackbeard starts in volume 29 in chapter 272, i think... 65.71.126.153 (talk) 00:52, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Toto

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Toto should not be included in this article, and this section is to be deleted

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. He has no importance to the story outside of the Alabasta arc and even there he is only a second row character. Good raise 00:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is Koza's father, and Aswa's husband. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Urouge

Resolved

– Consensus has been determined that Urouge does not meet requirements for having a section and is to be deleted

Remove, though I believe a concensus over the Supernovas was reached at Apoo, it still must be addressed. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- Like Luffy and Zoro, he is one of the Eleven Supernovas. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete with appropriate mentions in the 11 Supernovas section per Spindori's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. Per my comment on Scratchman Apoo. Good raise 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Miss Valentine

Resolved

– Miss Valentine is to be merged into the Baroque Works section.

Mention under a possible Baroque Works section. She has a one fight end. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove per my reasoning for Mr. 5. Spindori (talk) 17:39, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- She was an Officer Agent of Baroque Works. She deserves her own section. Rico70
Merge with appropriate mentions in the Baroque Works section per Spindori's reasoning. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Delete - she is only involved in one story arc and is a secondary character. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjones23 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge, Both her and Mr. 5 should be merged into the Baroque Works section. - SuperTiencha (talk) 01:19, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Very Good

Resolved

– Very Good does not meet requirements, and is to be deleted

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. He stands out among the thousands of nameless grunts the Straw Hats fought at Enies Lobby, but ultimately, he's just cannon fodder. Good raise 00:01, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the stronger marines. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Vista

Resolved

– Consensus is that the character is unnecessary and should be removed

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention him among Whitebeard's followers. He is perhaps the least prominent of his crewmen who should be mentioned. Good raise 23:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the fifth division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Whitebeard Allies

Resolved

– Consensus is to remove less important sublist from article

Mention under Whitebeard with the other allies, or remove them altogether. The aliies are too numerous to go into any detail with them. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention -- Under "The Whitebeard Pirates", or Remove them. Rico70
Merge can be mentioned in Whitebeard's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Remove that section. With small crews, I don't mind going for completeness and listing every member. WB's following, however, is just way too huge to do that. Being an ally of an important character doesn't make that ally important. So, if the characters listed here don't qualify for inclusion in any other way (and right now I don't see any of them doing that), then I'll have to advocate removal. Good raise 16:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention, or Remove them. I agree with Spindori. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

World Nobles

Resolved

– World Nobles merged into the World Government section

Merge into the World Government section. The Celestial Dragons are the only point covered here, and their short role does not merit a separate section. Spindori (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention in a section about the World Government. As a group they're important within the fictional universe of One Piece, but their part in the story has been minimal so far. Good raise 03:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- The World Nobles are vital characters in the series. They deserve their own section. Rico70
Merge, can be mentioned in the World Government section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Actually, I'm not real sure about the World Nobles, but I think they a least should have a section. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Wyper

Resolved

– Wyper should not be covered in a section of his own.

Keep in a separate section. He is of the most influential in the Skypiea arc. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the strongest living Shandorian warrior. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Keep as an important secondary character in the Skypiea arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Change to Merge per the concerns by Goodraise and SuperTiencha. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 16:47, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Sjones23. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge into a section covering the Shandorian characters. I think at present Wyper is given more attention in the article than his total screen time merits. His only importance is to one arc and even there he's second to another character: Enel. When compared to other characters, where does he stand? I'd say he's about as important as Dalton, Gan Fall, and Iceburg, neither of which is covered with more than a mention at this time. And there's even characters clearly more prominent than Wyper who don't have sections of their own: Rob Lucci and Magellan. The page is too long. We simply can't afford to cover non-recurring characters like Wyper in such detail. Good raise 07:35, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Merge into a section about the Shandorians. Same reason as Goodraise. - SuperTiencha (talk) 16:45, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Yama

Resolved

– Consensus is to remove unnecessary character

Remove him, a character used less than Aisa definately needs not a mention. Spindori (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is the commander of the Enforcers, and serves under Eneru. He deserves his own section. Rico70
Delete with appropriate mentions in Eneru's section. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Mention or remove him from the list completely. He's got one single fight. Aside from that, the story wouldn't change at all if he was missing. Good raise 16:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Yamakaji

Resolved

– Yamakaji should not keep his section, and is to be deleted

Delete, Minor character who is only involved in one story arc. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove him from the list. As far as I know, his name is only mentioned in one of the data books and his role so far has been minor at best. Good raise 23:55, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the powerful Vice Admirals of the marines, and he and four other Vice Admirals led the Buster Call on Enies Lobby. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep Same reason as Rico70. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Yasopp

Resolved

– Consensus is to establish mention of character under Shanks

Merge, can be mentioned in Shanks' section. He is a minor background character. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Mention him with Shanks and Usopp. That should be more than enough for a character with as little screen time as him. Good raise 23:53, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep -- He is one of the Red-Haired Pirates. He deserves his own section. Rico70 (talk) 04:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Keep He plays a major role as a member of the Red-Haired Pirates, and as Usopp's father. Not to mention, that he heavily influenced Usopp to become a pirate. --Dylandh (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

This Note

Latest comment: 9 years ago30 comments3 people in discussion

Somebody is going to have to explain this and possibly reword it. https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/List_of_One_Piece_characters#cite_note-40

The original artwork when the word is spelled out is ALWAYS spelled as Marine/Marines. Oda has never used the word Navy when spelling it out. Gune (talk) 18:30, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I think I found the pertinent change, made by LlywelynII (talk · contribs), here. I've also made a partial revert and reword here for the following reasons. Firstly, in German, case matters: "Marine" is a different word from "marine". Secondly, the artwork, as opposed to text in bubbles, always uses "MARINE" (in all caps), nothing else, not even "MARINES" or "海軍" (kaigun). And lastly, I don't see how the Navy could be considered an amphibious assault force, when they don't have any amphibious vehicles. Good raise 04:08, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't know why it matters what language it translates to in this case. Since when the word is spelled out it says Marine/Marines. So even if Oda admitted to using the German word it would still be Marine. For example Espada from Bleach isn't called Sword. Shouldn't we only mention what it says in English since this is the English wiki? Gune (talk) 04:31, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Firstly, it's not "spelling out". Wherever the organization is referred to in the speech bubbles, Oda uses the kanji "海軍" which he "spells out" using Ruby characters as "かいぐん". The Hepburn romanization of that is "kaigun" and it translates into English as "navy". Secondly: Show me where in the Japanese manga it says "Marines". You can't. Thirdly, the lettering on the sails and other places aren't English. They can't be English because the English noun "marine" has no sense that would apply here. See for yourself: [4] You might, of course, argue that the organization has a proper name that doesn't change from language to language, like in your Bleach example, except that Oda doesn't treat the term that way himself. Good raise 09:38, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

The letters are where it's spelled out. It's ignorant to claim it can't be in English when even the United States has a military group called Marines. The point was that Marines is the actual name of the group and we should really only focus on the English spelling of the word. While obviously that doesn't matter on Wikipedia since only official English spellings are used. On that note Funimation has changed. They use to use Marine for everything but changed it later for their dub. Gune (talk) 04:55, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Explain something to me. If "Marines" (spelled with an "s") is the name of the organization, then why does it say "MARINE" (spelled without an "s" or "S") on the sails? And why don't Oda's characters ever call it that? Good raise 05:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Marine soldier. Marines is just the plural of Marine. Gune (talk) 05:14, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

So why would they write the singular form of the name of their organization onto their sails instead of its actual name? Did they run out of paint? Good raise 07:17, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't even know what your argument is anymore. The point is that it is also an English word and we should focus on the English word since this is an English encyclopedia. Navy will always be a mistake due to actually being spelled out. Gune (talk) 06:10, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm still trying to figure out what you think is the correct name of the organization. Do you think it's "Marine", or do you think it's "Marines"? Or do you think it's both? Good raise 18:20, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

It's both. Marine is singular while Marines is plural. Gune (talk) 08:24, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Okay, assuming that to be true, how do you figure that calling the organization the "Navy" in English is wrong? There is in fact an organization the official name of which is "Marine", but in English that organization is referred to as the "German Navy". Are you saying that's wrong? Good raise 22:59, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

I said it was wrong since this is the English wiki. Also United States Marine Corps When people are talking in English talking about a military organization then that will be 100% what they will think you are talking about when you say "Marine". Gune (talk) 10:02, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I'll grant you that if you tell something to a random person in a random city in the United States about a military organization called "the Marine" (without an "s") that that person will probably assume that you are talking about the United States Marine Corps, which may also be referred to as "the Marines" (with an "s"), but only under the assumption that you simply don't know any better. That people would understand what you mean does not imply that what you are saying is correct. I'd imagine a marine who calls the corps "the Marine" (without an "s") would quickly find herself shouted at by a superior and ordered to do ten push-ups or something. Even if it were correct to refer to the USMC as "the Marine", that wouldn't help your case because the organization in the One Piece world obviously isn't a marine corps. It has warships. Marine corps don't; navies do. Its flag officers are admirals, as is normal for navies, but not for marine corps. The question remains, why should it be considered incorrect to call the organization described in this article "the Navy" at the same time as it is considered okay to call the organization described in that article "the German Navy" if "Marine" is the name of both organizations, both organizations have warships, and both organizations have admirals for flag officers? Good raise 07:45, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Nobody would say "the Marine". They would say the Marines or Marine. The point being that it is also an English word and since this is the English Wikipedia it doesn't matter what the word means in other languages. Even if Oda was using it to mean a German word or whatever else it still wouldn't matter since he actually spells it out as Marine and not Navy. Gune (talk) 20:31, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

How do you even come up with the rule that "since this is the English Wikipedia it doesn't matter what the word means in other languages"? I don't see that rule in the guidelines or policies, and English language practice, inside of Wikipedia as well as outside, indicates that the opposite is true, with this being a prime example. Good raise 12:25, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

You missed the point again. It will always be Marine since that's how Oda himself spells it. Gune (talk) 20:33, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I'm not missing the point, I'm just not convinced of it yet, because when I assume that it's correct to refer to the organization as "Navy" in English, then everything makes perfect sense, but not when I assume the opposite. That's why I'm asking all these questions, so you can explain to me, where I got it wrong. Unfortunately, since you're not expressing yourself all that clearly and keep ignoring my questions, it is hard to even figure out what your opinion is, let alone the entirety of your argument. But perhaps I'm simply going too fast. Taking a step back, I would say that the organization we are talking about is clearly a navy (with a lower case "n"). Are we in agreement about that? Good raise 01:35, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

It is a navy but the point is the name of that particular navy is called the Marines according to Oda himself. Gune (talk) 20:07, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay, so you say that "Marine" is one of this navy's names, and that "Marines" is another name it has. What about "海軍" (kaigun)? Is that one of its names too? Good raise 17:39, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

No I said Marines was the plural form of Marine. Kaigun is just the non translated form which would be translated to navy. But that doesn't matter since Oda himself spells it as Marines. Another example would be Funimation using Bon Clay or Viz using Zolo when Oda uses Bon Kurei and Zoro. Gune (talk) 05:17, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Another example of what? "Bon Clay" and "Zolo" are perfectly adequate romanizations of names these companies stuck with even after Oda revealed romanizations of his own. On the other hand, "Marine" isn't a romanization of "海軍" (kaigun) at all.

Anyway, your answer to my question confuses me even more. How many names do you think the navy has? One or more than one? And if it is only one, which one is it? Good raise 21:06, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Navy is just what kaigun literally translates to but that isn't what Oda uses. If he intended it on being "Navy" he would have spelled it like that at least once. Also neither are valid since Oda himself uses otherwise. "Zolo" is especially bad because Viz only started using it due to 4Kids using Zolo which is a stupid reason to use any name. They originally used Zoro like Oda. Gune (talk) 20:30, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

I find it puzzling that you won't answer my questions. Just to make sure we're on the same page, would you please tell me, in your own words, what you think is the difference between a translation and a romanization? Good raise 01:47, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

I have answered your questions multiple times. It isn't my fault if you don't understand it. A translation is a translation simple as that. Kaigun to navy is a translation but Oda has romanized it spelled out as Marines which means the correct version would be Marines. Gune (talk) 20:32, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Let me get this straight. You think "Marines" is a romanization of the Japanese "海軍" (kaigun)? Good raise 08:22, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok I get it now. You're just trolling. Carry on then. Gune (talk) 22:37, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Well it's still the navy until Viz media decides to reprint it to marine or marines. Whether it's a capital N navy depends on the Viz editor's notes (outside the bubble lettering which is all caps anyway) and whether they have a proper noun title for the group. If you're wanting to add that on all the artwork lettering on their caps, regardless of manga/anime and translation says "MARINE", that's fine. I don't see the problem with the existing notes trying to explain how it is printed in the Japanese manga 海軍, pronounced kaigun in the anime, and that Funimation is calling them the Marines throughout their dub. If Navy is outright wrong, take it up with Viz. It's not at the level of Zolo for exceptions. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:49, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Oda could have used a more literal wording in the speech bubbles, like マリン (Marin). But he used 海軍 instead. And Viz changed it to Navy. Are you seeing blog posts where he dislikes that the Viz English version keeps calling them the Navy? Or does he not really care? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

I just wanted to give you (Gune) opportunity to go back on what you said, because all it takes to figure out that it's wrong is to read the lead section of our article on romanization. Simply put, translation is concerned with what things mean, while romanization is concerned with how things sound. To the Japanese "海軍", "navy" is a translation into English, "Marine" is a translation into German, and "kaigun" is a romanization. Even if you can't read Japanese, you can listen to the anime in its original. They don't say "marine" or "marinu" or anything of the sort, but "kaigun". Of course that doesn't mean that the name of this navy isn't "Marine". It's merely a matter of basic terminology. If we can't agree on what the words that we use mean, then we can't have a productive discussion. But if you'd rather label me a troll and be done with it, then that's fine with me. Good raise 05:34, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Creating Articles for Straw Hat Pirates

Latest comment: 7 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Since One Piece is the best selling manga of all time, it is odd that only three character pages exist, compared to the amount of character pages for second-place Dragon Ball. I would recommend creating pages for all members of the Straw Hat Pirates. Plumber (talk) 18:27, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

I can tell you exactly why that is, DBZ was huge in America and other English language countries, while One Piece is bigger in it's native country of Japan. There are far more English language sources and interest from editors to make DB articles on English language wikipedia. Even if I don't doubt for a second that every single one of the main characters is notable, the vast majority of the sources to support that will be in Japansese, which most fans here can't read or even find. If I could read Japansese I would do nothing on this website but fix up OP articles for about three years.★Trekker (talk) 19:38, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Vinsmokes

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Pulled this from the article as it was spamming the Supporting characters list and was unsourced:

Vinsmoke Ichiji (ヴィンスモーク・イチジ, Vinsumōku Ichiji) also known as Sparking Red (スパーキングレッド, Supākingu Reddo) is Sanji's elder brother. He is voiced by Noriaki Sugiyama.
Vinsmoke Judge (ヴィンスモーク・ジャッジ, Vinsumōku Jajji) also known as Garuda (ガルーダ, Garūda) is the king of Germa.He is voiced by Hideyuki Hori.
Vinsmoke Niji (ヴィンスモーク・ニジ, Vinsumōku Niji) also known as Electric Blue (デンゲキブルー, Dengeki Burū) is Sanji's elder brother. He is voiced by Atsushi Miyauchi.
Vinsmoke Reiju (ヴィンスモーク・レイジュ, Vinsumōku Reiju) also known as Poison Pink (ポイズンピンク, Poizun Pinku) is Sanji's elder sister. She is voiced by Michiko Neya.
Vinsmoke Sora (ヴィンスモーク・ソラ, Vinsumōku Sora) is Sanji's mother. She is voiced by Yuriko Yamamoto.
Vinsmoke Yonji (ヴィンスモーク・ヨンジ, Vinsumōku Yonji) also known as Winch Green (ウインチグリーン, Uinchi Gurīn) is Sanji's younger brother. He is voiced by Kenjiro Tsuda.

Are these notable characters? Should they be mentioned in the article as a group? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:49, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

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Editing Article

Latest comment: 6 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

I've been thinking. Maybe we should restructure this page. I bring this up because I feel the organization feels too bloated and doesn't really give an indication which characters or groups are allies to the Straw Hat Pirates or antagonists. I think anyone not familiar with One Piece or trying to getting into it would likely be overwhelmed --ExplorerX19 (talk) 23:15, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Look at the chacters tab for the One Piece TV Tropes page as an expample. I was thinking something similiar I want the character wikipedia page to One Piece. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/OnePiece --ExplorerX19 (talk) 03:35, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

As far as I know, TV Tropes is not considered a reliable source. We may need to have a new discussion on how we can restructure this with other members of the project. I've already notified the WT:ANIME WikiProject about this. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:25, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

You can look at the One Piece Wikia. It has articles that are cited. https://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/One_Piece_Wiki --ExplorerX19 (talk) 05:27, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Request.

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200.80.247.35 has been blocked as a sockpuppet. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:12, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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Could you please change the picture into this one?: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/0/09/Chapter_863.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20170424163639 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.80.247.35 (talk) 15:02, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Why should we? At least provide a reason. Sk8erPrince (talk) 16:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Using the {{Voiced by}} template

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Guess it's an edit worth discussing since it was reverted twice.

The {{Voiced by}} template is used on alot of anime/anime character pages as a means to efficiently and uniformly list VAs under their roles...

as seen on all these pages: Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Voiced by

using the template will make the voice roles uniform and easier to navigate (without losing any information), while also saving 4,662 bytes (in my last edit) of page space

for example, just in the main characters alone, they present the same information with almost all different wording:

Luffy is voiced by Mayumi Tanaka	In the 4Kids Entertainment English adaptation, he is voiced by Erica Schroeder	In the Funimation Entertainment English adaptation, his voice is supplied by Colleen Clinkenbeard
In the anime television series, his voice actor is Kazuya Nakai	In the 4Kids English adaptation, his name is spelled Roronoa Zolo, and he is voiced by Marc Diraison	In the Funimation English adaptation, his voice is supplied by Christopher Sabat
In the anime television series, Nami is voiced by Akemi Okamura	In the 4Kids English adaptation, she is voiced by Kerry Williams	In the Funimation English adaptation, her voice is provided by Luci Christian
In the anime series, his voice actor is Kappei Yamaguchi	Jason Griffith and Sonny Strait provide his voice in the 4Kids and Funimation English adaptations, respectively
In the Japanese anime television series, he is voiced by Hiroaki Hirata	In the 4Kids English adaptation, he is voiced by David Moo	In the Funimation English adaptation, his voice is supplied by Eric Vale
His voice actress is Ikue Ōtani, Kazue Ikura voiced Tony Tony Chopper for episodes 254-263	In the 4Kids and Funimation English adaptations, his voice is supplied by Lisa Ortiz and Brina Palencia, respectively
In the anime television series, Robin's voice actress is Yuriko Yamaguchi	In the 4Kids English adaptation, her Baroque Works codename was changed to Miss Sunday and she is voiced by Veronica Taylor	In the Funimation English adaptation, her voice is supplied by Stephanie Young
In the anime television series, his voice actor is Kazuki Yao		Patrick Seitz provides his voice in the Funimation English adaptation
He is voiced by He is voiced by Chō		Ian Sinclair provides his voice in the Funimation English adaptation
In the Japanese anime television series, Jinbe is initially voiced by Daisuke Gōri, later by Katsuhisa Hōki		In the Funimation English adaptation, his voice is supplied by Daniel Baugh

when it can just be simplified to:

Voiced by:	Mayumi Tanaka	(Japanese)	Erica Schroeder (4Kids)	Colleen Clinkenbeard (Funimation)	(English)
Voiced by:	Kazuya Nakai	(Japanese)	Marc Diraison (4Kids)	Christopher Sabat (Funimation)	(English)
Voiced by:	Akemi Okamura	(Japanese)	Kerry Williams (4Kids)	Luci Christian (Funimation)	(English)
Voiced by:	Kappei Yamaguchi	(Japanese)	Jason Griffith (4Kids)	Sonny Strait (Funimation)	(English)
Voiced by:	Hiroaki Hirata	(Japanese)	David Moo (4Kids)	Eric Vale (Funimation)	(English)
Voiced by:	Ikue Ōtani, Kazue Ikura (Episodes 254-263)	(Japanese)	Lisa Ortiz (4Kids)	Brina Palencia (Funimation)	(English)
Voiced by:	Yuriko Yamaguchi	(Japanese)	Veronica Taylor (4Kids)	Stephanie Young (Funimation)	(English)
Voiced by:	Kazuki Yao	(Japanese)		Patrick Seitz (Funimation)	(English)
Voiced by:	Chō	(Japanese)		Ian Sinclair (Funimation)	(English)
Voiced by:	Daisuke Gōri, later by Katsuhisa Hōki	(Japanese)		Daniel Baugh (Funimation)	(English)

and having the localized name changes under the character paragraph, like it's done on List of Crayon Shin-chan characters

example for Roronoa Zoro:

Voiced by: Kazuya Nakai (Japanese); Marc Diraison (4Kids), Christopher Sabat (Funimation) (English)

(character paragraph)

His name is spelled Roronoa Zolo in the 4Kids dubs.

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(I don't know whether this would require a separate discussion, if it does please let me know)

Also, why are the other listed characters lower than the groups and organisations? Since the page is about the characters, I think that it should prioritize individuals over groups

I propose swapping the Other groups and organizations & Other characters sections around

Weebasenji (talk) 21:40, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

3 weeks with no responses, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ hopefully this edit will bump up some discussion. Per WP:SILENT I wouldn't want to assume that it's fine... but without clarified opposition, I can't determine why this edit would negatively impact the article. Weebasenji (talk) 01:36, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I'll ping WT:ANIME as I don't think silence means approval on this. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:03, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

See Talk:List_of_One_Piece_characters/Archive_3#Names_in_English_adaptations_and_voice_actor_wording where it went with the sentence format. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:06, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! I guess my biggest gripe is with how all the sentences are structured differently, like what's the difference between in the anime television series, in the anime series, in the Japanese anime television series, and just is voiced by? what's with Luffy's Japanese voice actor in the character paragraph on the previous line? why are the English voice actors for Usopp and Tony Tony Chopper combined? and very minor variations like voice is supplied by, voice is provided by, is voiced by? The inconsistency is a bit distracting.

Since it's a list article, I think that the variance might be a bit confusing with trying to find concise information... whereas with the template (/same formatting found on lots of other anime character lists), it's all uniform and easier to determine (with no lost information from a previous version of the page)

If the sentence structure wants to be kept, maybe a variation of {{Voiced by2}} that allows for multiple dub parameters and localized names could be made. Weebasenji (talk) 15:15, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Support makes sense. It will save lot of data this way. Masum Reza^📞 23:14, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

It doesn't really save data WP:NOTPAPER. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:56, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Celestial dragons

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User:Reciprocater has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet of the banned user User:It's gonna be awesome. Now, go edit somewhere else. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

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@Sjones23:, I would have to respectfully disagree with you on the point regarding your removal of certain content that truly meets Wikipedia:Core_content_policies. Please note that Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Enforcement_by_reverting: Editors who subsequently reinstate edits originally made by a blocked editor take complete responsibility for the content.

Regards

--Reciprocater (Talk) 05:55, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I first removed it as a block evasion maneuver and all edits by banned editors, good or bad, will be reverted, immune to WP:3RR. Anyway, regarding the celestial dragons, I don't think we should include it in the article because I couldn't find any source regarding Eiichiro Oda making similarities with the real-life ones in Taiwan. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:10, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

You first removed it was actually as "Removing unnecessary detail" --Reciprocater (Talk) 07:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I did, because it was also unnecessary to be included. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:14, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Then why you told me I first removed it as a block evasion maneuver and all edits by banned editors, good or bad, will be reverted, immune to WP:3RR. beforehand? --Reciprocater (Talk) 07:18, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Consensus#FORUMSHOP: Raising essentially the same issue on multiple noticeboards and talk pages, or to multiple administrators or reviewers, or any one of these repetitively, is unhelpful to finding and achieving consensus. It does not help develop consensus to try different forums in the hope of finding one where you get the answer you want. (This is also known as "asking the other parent".) (Reference)

--Reciprocater (Talk) 07:18, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

As per WP:BANNED, "Anyone is free to revert any edits made in violation of a ban, without giving any further reason and without regard to the three-revert rule. This does not mean that edits must be reverted just because they were made by a banned editor (obviously helpful changes, such as fixing typos or undoing vandalism, can be allowed to stand), but the presumption in ambiguous cases should be to revert." I've already asked AngusWOOF (talk · contribs), an uninvolved user, for his thoughts on the matter, and see what can be done to resolve the situation. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:22, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Sjones23, Labeling others as a sock puppet during a content dispute in order to win is not appropriate. Reciprocater (Talk) 07:26, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I was getting a little suspicious of the potential disruption and sock-puppetry (and I've been here for 13 years, so I know all of the rules here). Anyway, I'll ask at WT:ANIME to see if we can resolve this situation. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:28, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Section break

What does Taipei have to do with One Piece's Celestial Dragons? Where's the article that says the Taipei ones are connected to One Piece? It's not something apparent as with Four Symbols and they start using Dragon, Tortoise, Bird, Tiger AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 08:39, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't think it has anything to do with One Piece, so I think we should leave it out. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:42, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for all of your opinions. Whereas, the statement is supported by Wikipedia's core content policies, i.e. WP:RS, WP:verifiability and WP:NPOV. --Reciprocater (Talk) 08:50, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

As for reverting sockpuppet ban evasion edits, yes, editors can revert regardless of whether or not a sock made a good faith edit. Sometimes they put in a small good edit, but most of the time it is the same crap that got them banned in the first place like Cow Cleaner's shonen jump vandalism, One Piece Vol. 1 cover requestor. If the edits took place while the person was still legit, prior to being banned, then that's not an auto revert unless the edit was disruptive. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 08:52, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay, according to that article [5], someone called Taipei a "Kingdom of Celestial Dragons" because of the city's response to some local issue "in the controversy over a temporary home for sick children." That would be a neologism. There needs to be more articles to show the widespread use of the phrase. That might be the same as someone saying, "You're such a Sanji when it comes to women." or that person probably ate a "dum-dum fruit" or "that politician's going to be King of the Pirates". AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 09:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

How about the addition of this source 王盈淳 (2014-01-01). "天龍人蓋高尚?台北人主觀社會地位初探 [Do "TIAN-LONG" People Feel Superior? Subjective Social Status of Taipei Residents]". 臺北大學社會學系學位論文 [National University of Taipei] (in Chinese): 1–44. Archived from the original on 2019-12-26. Retrieved 2019-12-26. ? Thanks for your time. --Reciprocater (Talk) 09:06, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

That might not work. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 09:16, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

It's secondary source per WP:RS. Could you share me your reasons of disapproval? Thank you. --Reciprocater (Talk) 09:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

That's the same problematic restored edit reference on North-South article that got the other account banned. Any other articles? I saw this: [6] but it is a blog. Need more news sources. 09:28, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

the other account banned I politely ask you stopping labeling me and WP:personal attack. This is not helpful to buid WP:consensus. That source is published by National University of Taipei, there is no ground to compare it to a blog post and calling it "same problematic restored". Thank you. --Reciprocater (Talk) 09:41, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

How am I personally attacking you? I know nothing about you, what you look like, where you ilve, your real name or any of that. You've attempted to restore an edit made by a banned user and then you are calling a reference that was added by the same banned user. That could be a news magazine put out by NTU, but it refers to pages 1-40 so 40 pages and it shows that term, or is it on page "1-40"? The blog I was referring to was from popula.com not your NTU reference. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 09:49, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

WP:LISTEN, the source is a secondary source published by National Taipei University as opposed to a news magazine. University is not a commercial publisher. --Reciprocater (Talk) 10:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Stop throwing up random WP rule verbiage. That only makes you look more and more like the sockpuppets that were banned. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 09:50, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

I am not throwing up WP rule. Wikipedia is not a forum or non-government state. Wikipedia:Consensus: Consensus among a limited group of editors, at one place and time, cannot override community consensus on a wider scale.. --Reciprocater (Talk) 09:56, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Back to the subject at hand. This could be added as a brief sentence in the Reception section saying how people have began referring to Taipei as Tienlongguo (天龍國, Celestial Dragon Country), because of their residents' apparent nobility or aloofness.(taipei times ref, NTU ref) But I would be rather add a more mainstream newspaper and not a student publication. Wikipedia doesn't like sourcing student newspapers. Then again, this could be a journal piece complete with abstract. That's really long. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 10:00, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2022

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Add Yamato to the SH pirates, pls 2601:40:3:1FA:8929:8F16:EFC0:9EC9 (talk) 10:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:54, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

https://otakusnotes.com/one-piece-chapter-1051-yamato-officially-joins-straw-hat-pirates/

https://screenrant.com/one-piece-1051-yamato-straw-hat-pirates/

https://www.epicdope.com/yamato-aka-oden-final-member-of-luffys-crew-confirmed/

https://www.animesenpai.net/one-piece-11th-member-of-luffys-pirate-crew-announced/

These 4 sites all confirmed that Yamato is the new SH member 2601:40:3:C0A:1CB7:64D3:B3D4:753A (talk) 01:48, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

I reverted the addition. I placed my reasoning in my edit summary, but will place it here as well. Yamato's addition has not been made official yet, despite the links you posted. The fact is, we have one chapter of Yamato inviting themselves onto the crew, but even the manga itself basically clarifies "it's the captain who decides, not you". Will Yamato be joining? Yes, very likely. However, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and we can't be jumping the gun out of excitement for a new crewmate. Within the next few chapter releases, the arc will end, and we'll know for certain whether Yamato's addition is official or not. TLDR: just wait. Wani (talk) 00:57, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

To add on, three of your four sources aren't remotely reliable (they read more like personal blog posts), and Screen Rant is only considered "marginally reliable". Even the One Piece fan wiki doesn't consider the addition official yet. Wani (talk) 13:26, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

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Adding Vivi in StrawHats.

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This official Wikia says Vivi is part of the Strawhats.

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Straw_Hat_Pirates

Why isn’t Vivi part of Strawhats

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