Talk:List of Nobel laureates by country

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Athoremmes in topic Armenia


Change Taiwan to Taiwan(Republic of China) Due to the complicated circumstances of ROC history

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I am now changing The name "Taiwan" to "Taiwan (Republic of China)" and leave the comments here for further discussion. Many names mentioned in the count for Taiwan are generally considered Chinese because they were born before 1949 during the Republic of China's rule on the mainland. However, they are counted as Taiwanese due to the current abbreviation of Taiwan as the Republic of China. In other Wikipedia articles, it seems that when an element of Taiwan is considered more connected to the Republic of China era than the Republic of China rule on the Taiwan island era, it is generally mentioned using the name "Republic of China." For example, the flag of Taiwan is mentioned as the flag of the Republic of China. As a result, for consistency with such a trend, I will notify Taiwan as an abbreviation of the Republic of China rather than just "Taiwan," including the Chinese names mentioned in this list.--The193thdoctor (talk) 06:04, 19 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

roc vs prc

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if this is a list of countries of birth, #4-9 for "china (prc)" was listed by someone with little concern for historical accuracy or without any cultural understanding. it is a factual impossibility that any of #1 & 4-9 was born in the prc; the "people's republic of china" didn't exist until 1949. they were all born in a country that was then-known as the "republic of china," whose government moved to what is now known as "taiwan." the fact that the prc doesn't recognize the roc as an independent country seems irrelevant to whatever the arbitrary purpose of this article is. if this article is a list of "countries" as they are colloquially known, there seems to be no point in this articles existence. just as einstein wasn't born in "germany," likewise the aforementioned laureates were not born in the "prc."

samuel ting was born in michigan; that's in the usa. there is no mention of "prc" mentioned in mr. ting's bio on the nobel site, only "china." it completely eludes me as to why he is listed under prc except the entry editor was unintentionally racist. SollyWIKI (talk) 15:13, 16 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

yes

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yes 2601:201:201:9D40:35E2:EDC5:AD32:CEFA (talk) 06:08, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Should Mother Teresa be associated to Albania?

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Although she wasn't an Albanian citizen until 1991 (the Nobel Prize having been awarded to her in 1979)? 2A01:CB04:BC:3200:4977:38D9:A2A2:A9FC (talk) 12:30, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Germany

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Why do Emmanuelle Charpentier, Svante Pääbo and Ferenc Krausz fall under the "Germany" category? Do any of them have German citizenship? Is this ranking based on nationality/place of birth as it should be or does it include where some of the work has been done? (in the case of Emmanuelle Charpentier the work that owned her the Nobel Prize was carried out outside of Germany and she only moved there in 2015). If so shouldn't they only be under France, Sweden and Hungary+Austria, respectively? 84.185.230.36 (talk) 20:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Daron Acemoglu and Armenian Nobel Laureates

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In my opinion, if we include Ardem Patapoutian solely on a basis of ethnicity, we should include Daron too. Both are fully Armenian by heritage. Also, there should be an indication that they are Armenian by descent and not by birth. Athoremmes (talk) 13:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Armenia

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Daron Acemoglu is not from Armenia. He does not have an Armenian citizenship. Neither his father nor his mother was born in Armenia. Being of Armenian ethnicity does not mean having an organic bond to the modern state of Armenia, if that was the case we would be listing every single Jewish laureate under Israel. He should only be listed under Turkey and USA, as these are the countries he is a citizen of. 176.216.143.64 (talk) 22:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

We include the ancestry as a determinant for the inclusion under the country in some cases. This is why the “category” notion is used and not the “country” and the note under Armenia denotes that they are added on a basis of their ancestry.
I agree, “list of Jewish Nobel laureates” should be included under Israel too, but not the full one.
Nobel laureates, who are ethnically Turkish, will also be included under Turkey, given a chance.
Athoremmes (talk) 09:54, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Emmanuele Charpentier

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Charpentier is 25% Armenian and she is vocal about it. We add people of partial ancestry (Hassabis), so why won't we add Charpentier too, who is also of partial Armenian descent? The problem lies in 25% which is not the same as 50%, which Hassabis has, but it is enough for the application for Armenian citizenship and is already used in the List of Jewish Nobel laureates. Athoremmes (talk) 15:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply