Talk:List of Hey Arnold! episodes

Latest comment: 5 years ago by SummerPhDv2.0 in topic Unverified source

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I redid this entire page in the grid format. All by myself. Enjoy- user:cowbellcity45

Just wondering in the episode "Married" the article states

After 9/11 Nickelodeon stopped airing this episode due to Helga's dream from the future in which the New York City skyline included the World Trade Center.

Yet it also states the airdate as being May 11, 2002. I remember watching this episode so I know it has been aired before. Can I get clarification on this? 97.99.25.214 01:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Yes, a quick question. I looked through all the descriptions of all the eppisodes, but can't find mention of one in particular. Its one where Arnold accidently gets in a fight with Harold, so to get out of it he plays a song with the following words "Don't hit me, I'll hit me" Does anyone know what eppisode that is? VTPhantos (talk) 07:29, 17 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

24 Hours to LiveHellerick (talk) 12:34, 17 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
The grid format is a good addition.P0PP4B34R732 (talk) 22:24, 24 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

The Arnold pilot

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The 1994 Hey Arnold! pilot (Arnold) was never aired on TV, only its remake (24 Hours to Live) was aired on TV. The pilot wasn't shown to the general public until July 10, 1996 as a theatrical short released through Harriet the Spy. 24.180.56.157 (talk) 18:14, 2 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

24.180.56.157 Though I personally believe you, any changes to the article would really benefit from any references you can provide that supports this. The strength of this encyclopedia is in its references. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:49, 2 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
There is this article from July 10, 1996, that says it was shown before Harriet the Spy. This article for the recent complete series DVD release says the series "debuted as an animated short for the Nickelodeon film 'Harriet the Spy' in 1996." Melonkelon (talk) 23:04, 2 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Phoebe's Little Problem/Grandpa's Packard

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Grandpa's Packard aired after Phoebe's Little Problem, not before. I remember at the end of Grandpa's Packard, the "EXECUTIVE PRODUCER CRAIG BARTLETT" credit appeared and that only appears at the end of the second half of episodes of Hey Arnold!. 24.180.56.157 (talk) 23:31, 2 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Production codes

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In this edit, Upgrader01 made a good-faith edit, changing a number of production codes, with the justification, "Correcting production order for Seasons 1-3. (The iTunes order is the production order)" The edit was not sound for a number of reasons, and I have reverted accordingly. Firstly, there was no reference. There was also no previous reference. If the claim is that the iTunes order is the production order, that needs to be demonstrated with something other than Upgrader's well-meaning assertion. Specifically, we need the 1.XX, 2.XX, 3.XX (and so on) production numbers to be sourced and to be matched with the correct episodes. If they cannot be sourced, they should be removed. Far more likely is that they were manufactured. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:01, 12 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

How does one find the production codes? I can't see them in the credits. Melonkelon (talk) 22:52, 12 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Hi Melonkelon, well that's the problem, sources for production codes are very difficult to find and they are more often confused for episode codes, which we sometimes are lucky enough to find at Futon Critic. (The television community has yet to really address this distinction.) Beyond that, though, the production numbers I typically see are highly questionable, since they tend to almost always coincide with the broadcast order, except with perhaps an A or B thrown in here and there. Episode Code 101 = Production Code 101a and 101b, because the kids presumably think that everything was produced in the order aired, which is not a great assumption, given how capricious network programming departments can be, especially when they want to create themed episodes. And even when Futon Critic uses 101A and 101B designations, that doesn't tell us in what order the carts were produced only the order they were paired when they were broadcast. More info below for context, but not required reading. :)
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Typically speaking, (and I'm not trying to be condescending, only detailed so that other readers can understand, should they care to) production codes are numerical coding used internally by a network, for billing, budgeting, organization, labor assignments, and so forth. These numbers are not always released, especially in children's animation. Let's say we're talking about a 22 minute animated series that has two 11-minute carts. Each cart might have a unique production code at the time they are being produced. This can be as simple as "101" for "season 1, cart 1", but can also be more complicated like "1ATX01". But when they ultimately get paired as a single episode, the episode may get a new episode number entirely, in which case we're really not talking about "production codes". Below, we've paired internal production codes 101 and 103 together because we want the same director working on the entire two-part episode. While 101 is being worked on, Director 2 is working on 102.

No. Title Directed by Original air date Production
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101 "Double Length Opener" Director 1 January 1, 2004 101
103
102 "Romance Theme 1" Director 2 February 14, 2004 104
"Romance Theme 2" Director 2 102
103 "Monster Theme 1" Director 1 October 31, 2004 105
"Monster Theme 2" Director 2 106
At some point the network decides that they're going to put together an episode, so they pick carts and then release them as a completed episode. Two-part double-length opener is episode 101, but was built from 101 and 103 production codes. Two romance-themed episodes are paired for Valentine's Day, episode 102, and so forth.
Hopes this helps someone somewhere. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:45, 13 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Episode order

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What's up with the order of the episodes in the page? It's a bizarre mix of the DVD order and the original airing order (though some airdates are wrong) Should I re-organize the episodes into their "intended" order? This order is the one found on iTunes and Amazon Video. Upgrader01 (talk) 02:34, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

We typically order by airdate. If you can find reliable sources that establish the beginning and end of seasons, that would be ideal. There might be some discrepancies between TVGuide.com and Zap2It that need to be worked out. Going by the Amazon/iTunes order might be problematic. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
So... Should I fix the incorrect air dates in the meantime? From what I can tell, both TVGuide and Zap2It have several airdates wrong. Amazon Video and iTunes seem to have the correct airdates. Upgrader01 (talk) 02:07, 12 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Unverified source

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This edit adds material based on a statement in a blog from the series' creator. Sort of. It says a fairly minor cartoon that ended 15 years ago is suddenly coming back.

Yes, WP:SPS carves out an exception from a recognized expert... blah... blah... blah. This is not about that.

The blog cited was created very recently (the day it was used here) and the posting cited is the only post on that blog. How do we know it was created by the series' creator? Because it says it is?

Were I interested in doing so, I could easily create a blog for "Donald Trump - President of the United States" and claim he has now revealed he plans to annex Canada, he has authorized the construction of a KFC in the Rose Garden and that he is an alien-human hybrid.

Why would anyone bother? Who knows? For several years we've had a vandal working their way through various kids TV shows creating new seasons of various long dead shows. Maybe some of their favorite shows were cancelled and the just can't cope with it. Sorry, Wikipedia isn't here for you to create a fantasy reality.

If this is actually the series' creator's own blog, it will not be the only place the future of the series is announced. At the moment, there is nothing to suggest this blog is in any way a reliable source for anything. - SummerPhDv2.0 18:16, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Incidentally, here is Bartlett's official Facebook page. Since January 1, 2019, he's posted 23 times -- almost daily. The blog and this highly unlikely announcement are completely unmentioned. - SummerPhDv2.0 20:02, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply