Talk:Lisa the Drama Queen

Heavenly Creatures

Something to bear in mind when watching this episode is Peter Jackson's movie Heavenly Creatures where two girls create a fantasy world. Katana Geldar 03:25, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm starting to get the feeling that this episode might end up being a Bridge to Terabithia parody.74.76.254.95 (talk) 01:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Saw the episode with my wife the other night. She mentioned Bridge to Terabithia as we were watching it, but I wouldn't know.24.106.251.18 (talk) 12:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

It certainly seems like a Heavenly Creatures parody, or reference, to me. The beginning where they meet over a painting of their favourite singer, the girl's name being Juliet, her having just moved to the country, her father being an academic. That's up to the first commercial. Eldaran (talk) 01:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Yep, I'm definitely getting a Heavenly Creatures vibe from this episode. Morhange (talk) 01:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

So there was also the contrast between the borish family and the cultured one, making models of their fantasy characters, the fight with her father and running off angry and subsequently entering their fantasy world together where they're the monarchs, the dance while their favourite singer is performing, and Lisa being prohibited to see her friend (I can't remember if it was for school reasons in the movie), and the obvious journal writing and Britishness. The last part of the episode doesn't really have anything to do with the movie though.

It is, enough to warrant an inclusion in the main article. Similarites include the name Juliet, they meet in art class, creating their fantasy world with papercraft (replacing clay in the film) and obession with a pop singer (Mario Lanza in the film and Josh Groban in this episode). CloneAlias (talk) 01:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, everything's stolen nowadays. Why the fax machine is nothing but a waffle iron with a phone attached. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.1.222.207 (talk) 02:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Style change in plot?

A reflection upon the plot: There was no clear sub-plot, and neither did the episode, as many do, start with something that turns out to be fairly disconnected from the main plot. Instead, this plot started immediately with Lisa meeting Juliet, and stayed with the events regarding the two girls during hte whole episode.

This might be worth mentioning? Is it a style-change, or just this episode being a bit different?

/Wilhelm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.16.11.108 (talk) 10:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

They often mention in the audio commentaries that as the network cuts down the length of the episode to fit in more ads they lose time needed for a B plot. I wouldn't know what to reference that too though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.139.119 (talk) 10:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Cultural references: I don't understand why other users are deleting the cultural references I am adding to the page. Yes, i do understand that you say: sources. I say about that: have you checked al the sources of all the cultural references of ALL THE SIMPSONS EPISODES? I guess: no. There's are hundreds of unsourced cultural references on other episodes pages. Its so simple: the references i put in to it are true, real. I don't add them if they aren't there........ You have to understand i am a huge fan of the Simpsons and i like the cultural references very much. So if i watch an episode and i see one: I do like to add it on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.119.143.109 (talk) 19:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. Also, if you have an urge to add speculation, try http://www.simpsons.wikia.com, I guarantee you that you can add whatever you like and nobody will revert you. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 19:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Question

My apologies for posting the Josh Groban songs under 'cultural references' a few days ago without a source. I wasn't even thinking about that, to be honest, I just thought somebody else might be interested which Groban songs were featured. Sure got deleted quick, but anyway...I found a blog that confirms what I posted here but I'm not sure if that's a reliable source. To me it seems as reliable as somebody's online episode review, but I thought I'd ask here before adding anything to the article. It's not disputable that it was Groban's music in the episode, right? Even though he wasn't a guest voice. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 01:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

You answered your own question. If you want a site where reliable sources are not required try this. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 00:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I was just asking. Sorry if I bothered you, Scorpion. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 03:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

References

"The episode is partially based on the Peter Jackson film Heavenly Creatures. It is also based on Pauline Parker and Juliet Hulme, two friends who together murdered Parker's mother."

Since Heavenly Creatures is itself based on the Parker-Hulme case, doesn't the latter go without saying? Daibhid C (talk) 13:48, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

this makes it the best episode ever. =) 87.160.25.184 (talk) 19:22, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

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Plot

There is also a sequence in which Groundskeeper Willie remembers his arrival on Ellis Island. The immigration authority changes his real name, Dr. William MacDougal, to the current one. --Hodsha (talk) 09:51, 1 January 2021 (UTC)