Talk:Libidibia ferrea

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Hi, could someone please change "it's" to "its" near the end of this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.27.197 (talk) 13:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Capitalization

Is "Pao Ferro" supposed to be capitalized? The article title is, but the article itself is inconsistent.Chickencha (talk) 15:14, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

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Pao Ferro → Pau ferro — The name comes clearly from Portuguese (Brazil), but has been misspelled. There is no such word as Pao in Portuguese, meaning stick or pole. There is the word pão = bread, but that is not meant here.CDiewald (talk) 12:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• English usage (WP:UE) is what matters, not correct Portuguese. Having said that, pau ferro seems more commonly used on the internet than pao ferro but the latter is widely used as well and should also be mentioned in the lead. — AjaxSmack 23:18, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment - this also seems to be called a Brazilian Ironwood tree or Brazilian Leopard tree in some circles.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• I don´t think there is an English usage of these particular Portuguese words. Erroneous usage in the Internet doesn´t make it English usage. The two English terms mentioned by Amakuru should be added to the article, as they appear also in the Germplasm Resources Information Network (GRIN) entry for Caesalpinia ferrea. That database does not mention Bolivia, only Brazil as country of origin. CDiewald (talk) 14:55, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Please cite a source that says that "pao ferro" is erroneous English usage. Being incorrect Portuguese is not enough. — AjaxSmack 16:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Should have added the hyphen between pau and ferro: "Pau-ferro". CDiewald (talk) 18:11, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Any English usage of the hyphen? Being correct Portuguese is not enough. — AjaxSmack 16:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

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Pau Ferro: Libidibia ferrea or Machaerium scleroxylon?

The wood database lists Pau Ferro as the common name for Machaerium scleroxylon.

https://www.wood-database.com/pau-ferro

Also, the guitar parts supplier stew-mac equates Pau Ferro with Machaerium scleroxylon.

Libidibia ferrea and Machaerium scleroxylon are in the same family, Fabaceae (legumes), but different genus.

Does anyone have a source for the assertion that Pau Ferro is a common name for Libidibia ferrea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GregHolmberg (talk • contribs) 02:23, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

powo.science.kew.org lists several species as having common name "Pau Ferro".

• Libidibia ferrea
• Platymiscium floribundum var. nitens
• Peltogyne paniculata
• Genus Machaerium

It's not clear to me to where "Pau ferro" should be redirected. Which of the four is most commonly meant by "Pau ferro"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GregHolmberg (talk • contribs) 02:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

The consensus of companies that sell "pau ferro" lumber for guitar building and other uses is that it refers to Machaerium species. How did we arrive at the idea that Libidibia ferrea is used in guitar building? 2601:647:CC00:30E0:E0B6:4201:F54E:157F (talk) 17:19, 14 October 2023 (UTC)