Talk:Legal case management

case management

please see the discussion on case management. I will create a disambigious page soon. Earlypsychosis (talk) 04:02, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Case management (disambiguation)now ready Earlypsychosis (talk) 05:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

copied from case management page

Certainly the term appears to be used generically across several areas; from (my own) (legal) perspective, I am not aware of any notable sources that deal with the topic, although there are statutory and other guidelines that impose limits; certainly professional organisations and government bodies will promulgate advice, but whether we need, or can sustain, an encyclopedic article on that topic is debatable IMO. Rodhullandemu 01:32, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply. There is clearly enough for an article on case management (mental health) with plenty of reliable sources. The current article seems to be about the USA healthcare system, something I am not familiar with. The reason for a query from a law perspective was the line and reference in the lead section

The term case management is also used to refer to dispute resolution systems which provide court or tribunal officials with closer administrative control over the litigation process than is traditionally associated with common law litigation.Boulle, L. (2005). Mediation: Principles Process Practice. 2nd Edition. Queensland, Australia. LexisNexis Butterworths. Earlypsychosis (talk) 04:22, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a synonym for law practice management[1]. Law practice management is better known and is the name given to the law school class dealing with case management issues in law practices. Itincludes high volume case management such as that seen in district attorney's offices of large cities. 76.99.55.47 (talk) 07:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

In my jurisdiction England and Wales "case management" is also used in the context of judicial case management - that is the process of managing a case carried out by the court or tribunal. We have meetings in court called "case management conferences" (CMC's) at which a judge presides and directions are hammered out. For complex cases there may be many of these. Tribunals have something similar (Employment Tribunals call them Case Management Discussions, there are other terminologies). It would not be used as a synonym for law practice management (which means something else of course). Courts manage cases a lot more now than they did pre-1999. Francis Davey (talk) 21:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

it would be great if you could suggest a couple of good sources Earlypsychosis (talk) 01:08, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I am almost ready to go with several bold changes. Will create a disambigious page on case management. I really need some help with the legal case management concept, mainly removing the legal content from this article, including the discussion from above and adding to legal case management Earlypsychosis (talk) 23:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Merge

Originally posted at User talk:Dondegroovily

Hello! What was your rationale for deleting the merge tag on the legal case management page -- time in place? They are indeed the same subject and should definitely be merged. Cheers from a former b'hamster! Sctechlaw (talk) 22:48, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

It was due to how old it was. If I'm uncertain about 3-year-old merge tags and there isn't much discusion, I just delete them. If the merge was important to someone, they would have done it. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 00:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Unless you have an objection, I'll put it back (as a reminder to myself and others with more ambition than time, lol) because it's a to-do item for article coherence and continuity. Sctechlaw (talk) 00:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

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Hi, I've been working in this field now for almost 20 years. Legal case management and legal project management, though similar are still distinct areas of endeavor. It's entirely arguable that they should be merged operationally in law firms but that hasn't happened at this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:45:4003:CEE0:D91E:DF9:AC1:CDC5 (talk) 14:38, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

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You are well come to contribute and improve article legal awareness.

Mahitgar (talk) 12:36, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Changes to article on July 25, 2015

On July 25, 2015, an anonymous user who was not logged into Wikipedia added substantial content drawn from a 2014 document that an organization identified as "Human Rights Alert (HRA NGO)" submitted to the United Nations Human Rights Council, in the context of a Universal Period Review to which any NGO may submit. This document, entitled "Large-Scale fraud in IT systems of the US courts - Unannounced regime change?," alleges that the court systems in the United States and Israel, and every single judicial action taken therein, are entirely corrupt, fraudulent, sham, abusive, and invalid, and violate the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The inflammatory tone of the document violates Wikipedia's policy requiring a neutral point of view (NPOV).

HRA appears to be the Arab Association for Human Rights, which according to NGO Monitor is a non-governmental organization in the Arab sector in Israel. NGO Monitor included HRA in its report on "European Union Support for Extremist and Policitized NGOs," noting (with specific examples) that it often uses "inflammatory language to vilify Israel." Citing this document as a reference violates two of Wikipedia's policies on reliable sources (NOTRELIABLE and SELFPUBLISH).\

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NOTE: The above text, pertaining to Human Rights Alert NGO, includes false and misleading information.

• HRA-NGO is NOT "a non-governmental organization in the Arab sector in Israel."
• HRA-NGO has never been supported by the European Union.
• NGO MONITOR - (itself a dubious, biased site) includes no information whatsoever on Human Rights Alert NGO (as of February 01, 2020 search).
• As to integrity, or lack thereof, of the Israeli justice system - suffice is to quote the HRA-NGO submission to the UN Human Rights Council, as summarized in the UN Universal Periodic Review report of Israel 2018:

"24. HRA-NGO highlighted the serious deterioration in integrity of law and justice agencies as a consequence of the implementation of e-government systems. It affirmed that the validity and integrity of any legal and judicial records of Israel should be deemed dubious at best."

• As to integrity, or lack thereof, of US federal courts case management systems (PACER/CM-ECF) - suffice is to refer to the HRA-NGO submission to the UN Human Rights Council, as summarized in the UN Universal Periodic Review report of Israel 2015, which called for fixing the system.

Glad to be of help to the Wikipedia project. Joseph Zernik, PhD

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The document itself was authored by Joseph Zernik, whose address is in Israel. The IP address from which these anonymous changes were made is 82.80.130.226, which the DB-IP database identifies as originating in Israel. This raises serious concerns that the author or someone affiliated with him is the one who edited this article to add his own document as a reference, violating Wikipedia's policy prohibiting the inclusion of original research (NOR).

Finally, as it stands now, this article implies that the United Nations itself has espoused the views expressed in this document, which is false and misleading. I am inclined to delete all references to it, leaving only the first paragraph of the section Case management in the U.S. federal courts and eliminating Case management in the Israeli courts in its entirety. If anyone disagrees, please speak up here. --Shadow (talk) 23:33, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• Further research has disclosed additional evidence suggesting that the anonymous user at 82.80.130.226 was Joseph Zernik, the author of the document. The anonymous user has edited only one other Wikipedia page, 2011 Israeli social justice protests. The user last edited that page in July of 2015; in August of 2015, a new account in the name of Joseph Zernik made its first edits to that same page. This is strong circumstantial evidence that Joseph Zernik is the one who originally edited this article from 82.80.130.226 before creating his own Wikipedia account. (IMPORTANT: I absolutely do not mean to suggest that Zernik had any intent to deceive anyone or conceal anything; he probably just didn't bother creating a formal Wikipedia account at first, and as a new Wikipedia user may also have been unfamiliar with the above policies.)

In addition, two weeks have passed with no comments. I am therefore going to go ahead and delete the apparently improper material. Again, if anyone disagrees, please feel free to address it here. --Shadow (talk) 20:53, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

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