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Hello Lea, You remind me of someone who could have been special, it is uncanny. I am considered a lipstick lesbian, and have no drama or baggage. I think we need to connect. Ava B. Avabava2 (talk) 00:41, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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• Lea DeLaria at the International Emmy Awards.jpg

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Comments on Trump

Typically, Wikipedia's biased editors will remove information like this to conceal the historical truth, but Lea Delaria called for President Biden to have Donald Trump presumptively killed in response to the SCOTUS Presidential immunity decision. Numerous conservative and right of center profiles on Wikipedia mention relevant and controversial quotes from those individuals, and as such, in the spirit of fairness, this should remain on Delaria's Wikipedia page as well. The Instagram post is sourced. 167.248.152.253 (talk) 16:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

I see that Wikiepedia editor, Firefangledfeathers, has immediately removed the FACTUAL and sourced video of Delaria asking for President Trump to be 'taken out'. Does "They/Them" (Firefangledfeathers) not believe in accurately posting controversial statements to the Wikipedia profiles of high profile people on the left, or does that only apply to people on the right? 167.248.152.253 (talk) 16:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

We don't cherry pick social media posts we like/dislike and copy them here. If a reliable source covers her posts, we should summarize that source here. Until that happens, we wait. I'm not sure why you copied my pronouns here, but thanks for the visibility I guess? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Firefangledfeathers - Let the historical record speak for itself. Stop goaltending for your ideological allies and marking information you don't like as 'vandalism'. It's not 'vandalism' to provide facts. 167.248.152.253 (talk) 14:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Now that there is a reliable source publishing her comments, I won't stand in the way of inclusion. I made some edits to note the background and cut parts that were not in the source. We should also keep it short; this is one news piece out of many on DeLaria. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

IP 172.254.25.66 just removed the paragraph entirely. Care to explain why? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I have restored the information AGAIN. Previous user provided no reason as to why factual sourced controversial statements made by DeLaria were deleted. 167.248.152.253 (talk) 16:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes. I left a comment at their user talk page, but they haven't yet responded here or there. You restored a version that has a WP:BLP violation. The source does not describe DeLaria's comments as racist, and even if it did, our bar for including such claims in wikivoice is high. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

How about now after an assassination attempt was made?

Wikiworthy yet? Or still goaltending? 98.111.191.186 (talk) 15:43, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS. We don't include every controversial statement made by a person that is covered by news outlets, unless it is particularly significant. If we did, some biographies would be pages of them. We definitely cannot use social media for citing them. For me, I think the easiest way to tell whether a statement is noteworthy is whether there is enduring coverage of it in multiple reliable sources. If the only sources covering this are The Hollywood Reporter (reliable for entertainment-related content) and The Daily Mail (not reliable), that does not suggest to me that this comment is particularly noteworthy. Maybe time will tell differently. The rush to include it seems premature at best, and I would recommend not including it at this time. – notwally (talk) 21:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

The article is edited again to frame her comments as being merely 'related' to comments others said. The Hollywood Reporter article also cited previously violent language DeLaria used. Most of the main stream media, which is decisively liberal, is ignoring this celebrity's hate speech. And to see WP seasoned editors spin the story and/or remove it only proves the assertions that Wikipedia editors are by in large left wing biased. 167.248.152.253 (talk) 21:47, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Your repeated personal attacks against other editors needs to stop. You can have whatever fringe views you want to have about the media, but you are not allowed to repeatedly make baseless accusations against other editors here. – notwally (talk) 21:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

So it's a fringe view to simply want the historical record about controversial comments by the person to be included in their bio on Wikipedia? If only right-wing/conservative figures were treated with the same standard...... 167.248.152.253 (talk) 22:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Top image

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D

The image we are currently using at the top of the article (from 2015: I've labeled it A) shows her kind of gawping. Several other versions of Wikipedia use a detail extracted from the Orange is the New Black cast photo (2013: I've labeled it B; we use the full photo, File:Orange Is the New Black cast.jpg, further down the article). This is a better photo of her, but because it's blown up from a detail, it's fuzzy and there are body parts from other cast members to the right and left of her face. Commons also has a group shot from 2014, which I've labeled C, and a number of shots from a Pride parade in 2017, one of which has been cropped a bit to produce what I've labeled D. I believe a crop of C or a tighter crop of D would make a better top image for the article than B, and certainly better than A. C has the disadvantage of her having her head cocked to one side. In D she's wearing sunglasses and I suspect the crop should be tight enough to remove at least part of the parody T-shirt slogan for legal safety, and I don't know how blurry the result would be. (I don't know either how to use the Commons crop tool or to do the necessary paperwork over there for uploading a derivative image, or I would have posted suggested versions here rather than the existing C and D). But D is also the most recent of the lot. For full disclosure, the current image (A) has been posted today to a Wikipedia criticism site's thread on bad photos in biographies. I agree with the poster there that it should be replaced. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I would support a crop of D. I don't think it has to be cropped so tightly as to remove the shirt. I used the crop tool to make option E.

E

Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, that's definitely better and since no one else has commented, I'll go ahead and replace the image with E. Yngvadottir (talk) 23:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Here's a more current photo you might consider:

[1]https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/03/01/86855607-13594485-image-m-48_1719967616084.jpg 98.111.191.186 (talk) 15:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)