Talk:Lamington

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A good image. But I'd suggest that a more typical appearance is like these. This link also hints at the popularity of the cake in Malta, presumably because of returning migrants from Australia. Anyone who has been to Malta will know that these are commonly on the menu. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:41, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Origin - 1st April 2014 edits

The Guardian article which "proves 'beyond doubt'" the lamington is of New Zealand origin is an April Fools joke. 60.242.1.97 (talk) 08:18, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Maybe this should be included and explained for what it is, in the article? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:14, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Lamington drives

I'm probably doing this wrong, so I'll apologise in advance. Having said that, why would anyone tag a term as old as "Lamington drives" with [citation needed]? A simple Google search for the expression returned more than 700,000 hits, & all the first page results confirmed the ascribed meaning. (As did my entire school career, but of course that's not a citation.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.121.59 (talk) 10:16, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

We don't all live in Australia or South Africa. Just choose one of those 700,000 (that looks reliable, and even interseting) and add it as a source! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Origins of Lamingtons

While we are legitimately interested in when and where the name "lamington cake" originated, it is possible that the recipe itself is older than the name. The reason I say this is because I noticed this recipe for Cocoanut Balls in an 1893 Queensland newspaper which is very similar to a lamington only one assumes they were using a white frosting rather than a chocolate coating given the instruction "until they look like balls of snow". It would be interesting to know if there are recipes for lamingtons that precede the use of the name. Kerry (talk) 22:43, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Lambington

The comedy series "How To Talk Australians" (viewable on YouTube) has a scene in episode 2 entitled "Grub" in which a fictional Lambington is prepared (a lamb chop dipped in chocolate then rolled in coconut): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE-al0xSFJo (watch from 4:15)

The annoying april fools day prank

Due to the april fool's day prank, people constantly edit the lamington page to claim lamingtons were invented in new zealand. Do we need to raise the level of protection on this page? I dont think people are deliberately vandalising, I think a lot of people actually dont realise that the article in the guardian was an april fools day prank. I've even seen mainstream publications fooled by that prank (https://theculturetrip.com/pacific/australia/articles/5-foods-australia-and-new-zealand-love-to-bicker-about/). If we raise the level of protection, it may stop edits from people who havent bothered to read the wikipedia page properly. Apples&Manzanas (talk) 07:42, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Update - the vandalism has largely stopped since giving the April Fools Day prank its own subsection. It was very frequent before this. Apples&Manzanas (talk) 01:45, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I merged the overbearing two-sentence 2014 April Fools' Day prank by The Guardian section into Origins, but User:Arjayay argues that it should be kept because "the vandalism has largely stopped since giving the April Fools Day prank its own subsection". But has it? And is going against MOS:BODY ("Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading") a good solution? I thought invisible MOS:COMMENTs and/or some form of page protection were the norm, but neither of those has been tried in this article. --Lord Belbury (talk) 17:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

To clarify, that was not a quote from me, but from Apples&Manzanas, immediately above; However, it is an opinion that I fully endorse, having edited this page 20 times before today. Although I have added a lot of it, I have never found hidden text particularly effective in preventing vandalism. and as for MOS:BODY, I think this is a case of Wikipedia:Ignore all rules, which, although often scoffed at, is actually policy. - Arjayay (talk) 18:03, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Apologies for the misquote! As a data nerd this made me curious enough to go through the history and count how much vandalism there's been. Looking at the 18 months either side of the heading being added in April 2020 (and grouping together edit wars into a single instance), I count 15 Aus-to-NZ edits before, and 12 edits after. I've graphed this by month at https://i.imgur.com/qTD5tTC.png, and wouldn't say it was precipitous enough to merit such a big splash of IAR bathwater.

Some of the post-April-2020 edits are straight amendments to the lead or infobox, which if made in good faith must be happening without the reader scrolling down to read the April Fool section at all (and there's no reason why they would, if they believe that the cake is an NZ one, and haven't heard about this being an April Fool). I think a hidden comment at the top of the article could do some good, and certainly more good than the bad of the MOS:BODY-breaking subheading. --Lord Belbury (talk) 19:14, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Should we remove the "2014 April Fools' Day prank by The Guardian" heading, if we're road testing the HTML comment? Taking both approaches at the same time isn't going to tell us if the HTML comment by itself is sufficient. --Lord Belbury (talk) 12:25, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

The only New Zealand edits since the hidden text came in were both made in bad faith (one deleting both hidden texts and adding "ITS FROM NZ!", another consciously deleting the section about the April Fools story). I think it might be working. Any objections to removing the prank subheading to see if any good faith edits return as a result, User:Arjayay? --Lord Belbury (talk) 10:03, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Lord Belbury - personally, I don't think such a minor transgression of the guidelines is worth worrying about, but as it obviously troubles you, please do as you see fit. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 14:54, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Alright, thanks, let's see how it goes. --Lord Belbury (talk) 14:59, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Raspberry Lamingtons

The article says raspberry lamingtons are available in New Zealand with an implication that they're not in Australia, but almost any time I see chocolate lamingtons, raspberry ones are right beside them. This was the case in northern Queensland and Melbourne at least. Here's a photo I took yesterday from a bakery in Melbourne.

I don't know anything about the editing and sourcing process on Wikipedia so I didn't make changes to the page but that bit seems misleading as-is. Obitussin (talk) 21:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)