Talk:Lake Street station (Arlington, Massachusetts)

GA Review

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Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 18:21, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

• Will get to this within the hours. 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 18:21, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

• Thanks for the article! I have left some comments below. Please ping me once you have addressed my concerns so that I may know when to reevaluate. Thanks, 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 19:07, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

• @LunaEatsTuna: Thanks for the review! My replies are below. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:18, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

• Thanks for the changes! I am now pleased to pass this article for GA status. Congrats on another fantastic good article as always (: 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 00:34, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Copyvio check

Earwig says good to go.

Files

• File:Lake Street station, circa 1915.jpg: good, valid public domain rationale—published prior to 1928;
• File:Floral display at Lake Street station, 1905.jpg: good, valid public domain rationale per above;
• File:Former site of Lake Street station (1), September 2022.jpg: good, CC-BY-SA 4.0, uploaded to Commons by nom (thanks!).

Prose

• "In 1876, town officials" – nitpicking, but do the sources say what role these town officials had? The word choice is fairly vague.
  •  Done Clarified.
• "the B&M held contests among its station agents to create floral displays at its station." – was this at the station or in the station? Additionally, were these displays intended for the station or does the source not say? Also;
• "[…] create floral displays at its station." – recommend "[…] create floral displays at the station." to avoid repeating the previous its station earlier in the same sentence.
  •  Done Reworded in a way that should fix both points.
• "In 1926–27" – recommend "Between 1926 and 1927".
  • I tend to reserve "between" for ranges; construction took place in 1926 and 1927.
    • Noted!
• "the only surviving stations of the Lexington Branch are Bedford and Lexington" – sentence is missing a period.
  •  Done

Refs

Spotchecks on refs 1, 2, 7, 15, 19 and 21 show no concerns—they all support the article's content. I had access to confirm ref 21 via a preview on Google Books.

• Ref 2 is missing a publication date.
  • This document is an odd one - it's updated a few times a year, hence why I don't have the date in the template. I can add an accessdate if really necessary, but I don't personally think it's needed.
    • Ah, I see. Well, for cite web templates dates are not required so I doubt they are needed in this case either.

Other

Templates (including infobox and coords), external links and cats good.

• Add a WP:Short description.
  •  Done
• Recommend adding template:Use X English
  •  Done
• Recommend adding template:Use mdy dates
  •  Done

Thanks for the WP:ALT text!

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Dying (talk) 11:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that the agent at Lake Street station won several prizes for his floral displays on the station grounds? Source: Boston Globe, October 1, 1905
  • ALT1: ... that Lake Street station was originally Pond Street station? Source: Pondering the origin of "Spy Ponders"
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Convex curve

Improved to Good Article status by Pi.1415926535 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:03, 13 January 2023 (UTC).

•  Reviewing... Onegreatjoke (talk) 15:07, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
• @Pi.1415926535: Honestly, these hooks are bland. maybe the first hook can work but the second hook definitely isn't. Can you come up with another hook? Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:37, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
  • @Onegreatjoke: Unfortunately, there's not a lot exciting about this station. I was hoping the lake/pond pairing would be funny, but I may have overestimated how funny I am. If you don't think there's any worthwhile hooks, I can withdraw. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:55, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

I'll ask for a second opinion to see. But for now, I don't believe the hooks are interesting enough. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:34, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

I'll admit that ALT1 got a small chuckle out of me, but it's probably a non-starter. ALT0 had potential, but without any pictures to show said displays, I'd agree that ALT0 isn't the greatest hook out there. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:25, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

• Since this nomination has been stuck for a while, I'd reiterate that I think the original hook is only good if there were good pictures of said floral displays. I see that there's one in the article, but I don't think it would work well for the main page. Otherwise, yeah I think there isn't a path forward for this nomination unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:50, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

The source cited doesn't actually say anything about the station, just about the name of the street (sigh). But I think we can still save an ALT1 variant as a "quirky" hook (Lake, Pond, cute, don't overthink it). Proposing:

• ALT1a: ... that Lake Street station was originally on Pond Street?

Requesting new reviewer for ALT1a. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

@Cielquiparle: the article doesn't say that the station was on pond street in the body, could that be fixed? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:41, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Pinging Pi.1415926535, it's not Cielquiparle's problem. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:41, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: How does it look now? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:36, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@Pi.1415926535: source says that the street was renamed; is it BLUESKY that the station comes with it? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:22, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: Perhaps a bit BLUESKY, but the 1870 and 1875 railway guides (sources 6 and 7) do show the renaming as well. (1870 guide shows "Pond Street", 1875 shows "Lake Street".) Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:49, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

good to go, then :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:14, 18 February 2023 (UTC)