Talk:Lake Placid (film series)

Requested move 11 May 2015

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was not moved per discussion. Insufficient notable media in addition to the films to warrant "franchise" in lieu of the unambiguous "film series" as the topical scope disambiguator--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:32, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

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Lake Placid (film series) → Lake Placid (franchise) – "Film series" is a messy and unnecessary title, and "franchise" is a much better, simpler and more appropriate wording. The definition of "franchise" (film/media) is "an entire series of the film (multiple movies): the original and all its subsequent sequels thereafter (ie, James Bond/007 films, Star Wars movies, Rocky series, etc.) or a collection of different media" as can be easily looked up on Google. And a franchise is a franchise no matter how big or small. TurokSwe (talk) 09:35, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose. Per WP:NCF, we use "(film series)" as a disambiguator, unless it is a multi-media franchise. A couple of promotional tie in web games does not satisfy the definition of a franchise. --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:42, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
  • The Tremors franchise is of equal significance, yet is labeled as a franchise. The NCF-article states that when "the content originating in a film or film series is presented in other media, then an associated overview page (an article describing and summarising the items of the franchise) may be disambiguated (if necessary) as Series name (franchise).'". A series of films and a couple of promotional tie-in video games (one of them an actual online multiplayer game based on the second film) is more than enough. The franchise is growing. TurokSwe (talk) 10:04, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
    • The Tremors franchise includes a television series, this is just a series of films. --Rob Sinden (talk) 10:06, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
      • That's a weak and confusing counter-response, and as I said, this isn't "just" a series of films, it so-far includes video games, and more is likely to come. Refusing this renaming just because the franchise doesn't have a TV-series is illogical. It would be appropriate to use the term "film-series" if there were several different series and storylines with a number of installments, but this is just one single franchise. TurokSwe (talk) 10:27, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose. "Franchise" is an ambiguous term that primarily refers to a business structure. It's not a good term for media. 209.211.131.181 (talk) 18:13, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
  • It's a common and great term for media. Media/film franchise happen to exist and this franchise falls under that category. TurokSwe (talk) 07:16, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm not disputing that the term "franchise" exists for media exploitation, only that it is at all useful in a general encyclopedia. It isn't useful, because it's ambiguous, confusing inside jargon that's subject to judgment calls such as the exact one in this nomination. 209.211.131.181 (talk) 12:18, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:NCF. Calidum T|C 02:46, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Elaborate. TurokSwe (talk) 07:16, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose at this time; this media is overwhelmingly primarily notable as a film series, so there is nothing wrong with the existing title. bd2412 T 14:51, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.