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Latest comment: 6 years ago by Jazzcowboy in topic History on Band Name?
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Definition of "Antebellum"

The definition of the word "antebellum" seems totally insufficient. First, it is repetitive and unclear, and second because "antebellum" isn't, as far as I know, just generally about the South prior to the American Civil War, but specifically the South as it existed under the regime of legal slavery. If a description and definition of that term is important enough to include in the entry, then it's valuable to get it correct and complete.

For instance, the entry for "Antebellum era," which redirects to "Plantation era" mentions slavery in every sentence of the introduction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DILNN1 (talk • contribs) — 00:38, 26 July 2017.

History on Band Name?

Latest comment: 6 years ago10 comments10 people in discussion

I was listening to the BBC Radio 2 Drivetime interview with Lady Antebellum. Simon Mayo is the usual host, but Lisa Tarbuck was sitting in for him. The first question Lisa asked was how they got their name. I've included the reference in the text as I don't know how to cite it. To check the reference, please go to the BBC Radio 2 website to "Listen Again". The interview started at about 18.05 on 9th August 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.23.75.129 (talk) 17:19, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

It's a little odd. If anyone knows the meaning with a citation, add it in please. Briar On Fire 03:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Briaronfire (talk • contribs)

Antebellum is defined below: an·te·bel·lum   /ˈæntiˈbɛləm/ [an-tee-bel-uhm] –adjective before or existing before the war, esp. the American Civil War. [Latin ante bellum : ante , before + bellum , war .]

Not to sure on the history or story involving the name, just wanted to let people know the meaning of antebellum.

The term "antebellum" has one meaning and one meaning only, and it is highly unlikely that none of the founding members of this band have any clue as to what they are suggesting by putting this term in their name. And I think this issue should be able to migrate from the talk page to the main article. If someone or a group of someones want to voluntarily advocate a return to a slaveholding society, I see no reason why wikipedia cannot clearly spell out the implication. But unless a *real* explanation emerges and not that crap about photographing antebellum houses, everyone should understand that association with the term "antebellum" unequivocally indicates nostalgia for the time when people of color were held in permanent, heritable bondage. That's what it means. You can argue that it literally means "before the war", but that's just wink-wink, nudge-nudge doublespeak. If the name of your band is antebellum anything, you are advocating hard core racism. Period. Now let's move this concept to the main article and stop pretending that it doesn't exist. If the band members really, truly have no clue as to the implication of antebellum, hopefully they will be horrified at their inadvertent callousness and change their name. But I wouldn't hold my breath. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.111.80.26 (talk) 23:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I absolutely agree with this. I saw an item about this band on TV and was shocked that a band could choose a name like this in the 21st century. The name is as offensive as the confederate flags flying all over the south and on pickup trucks in the north. Needs to be discussed openly on the main page. ---Dagme (talk) 15:00, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

While the term itself pretty clearly means "The American South prior to the Civil War," expecting it to imply that the band is a bunch of racists is a stretch too far. Many Southerners romanticize about the more "Genteel" past, without giving thought to what it meant to those people who worked as slaves to make that society possible. And of course the art, architecture, and all come with that. I can freely state that I love Gothic cathedrals in Europe, and may name my band "Flying Buttress," but it by no means implies that I would like the inquisition to return, or that I'm even Christian.Beetlecat (talk) 22:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The fact that they don't think about the implicit racism is the reason to imply they are a bunch of racists. But, in the main article, it's good as it stands to allow the readers to figure that out on their own - unlike Lady Antebellum, readers are informed about the meaning. (Of course I too find it hard to believe that none of them knew what it meant or what its connotations are.69.108.25.101 (talk) 04:18, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
One of the most idiotic arguments I've seen on a Talk Page, totally without foundation. Antebellum often refers to architecture, genius. HammerFilmFan (talk) 19:20, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
A sincere question: If one understands the word "antebellum" strictly as a style of architecture, then what does the phrase "lady antebellum" mean? Is it just a non-sequitur that sounds pleasant? How about "fraulein bauhaus"? --anon. 71.183.136.127 (talk) 02:19, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User_talk:Briaronfire" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.5.201.2 (talk) 19:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I was really surprised that there's no section on controversy over the name, as I recall seeing plenty of commentary about it a few years back which could easily be cited. I'm not going to go dig them up (nor am I ever going to bother to create a Wikipedia account because I don't need no stinkin' badges) but they shouldn't be hard to find. And I'm equally surprised by the commenters here who deny the implied meaning of "Antebellum" to anyone with a modicum of education about American history. The band may not be racist, but their name coyly markets their music to an audience with nostalgia for a society that was reliant on institutional racism for its social norms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.26.108 (talk) 15:09, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I've updated the section to make it slightly less misleading, and to make the (perhaps insufficient) sentence on criticism clearer.Jazzcowboy (talk) 22:56, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit request from NickelodeonTV, 14 February 2011

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

{{edit semi-protected}} Hi,

Lady Antebellum has been nominated for Favorite Music Group in the 2011 Kids' Choice Awards. We were wondering if this could be added to the Awards and Nominations table.

Thanks

NickelodeonTV (talk) 18:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -Atmoz (talk) 18:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Alan Parsons Project

Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Shouldn't there be something about the APP potential plagiarism ("Eye in the Sky" v "Need You Now") controversy? At least its existence. 90.204.222.118 (talk) 21:16, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

For what it's worth, there is something about it on the Need You Now page. tharsaile (talk) 23:28, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Eligibility of "Need You Now" for 2011 Awards

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Does anyone have any information as to why the above song, released in 2009, continue to be eligible for awards in 2011? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.159.200 (talk) 02:40, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

"History" needs to be rewritten

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

It's redundant - and it keeps repeating itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.128.168 (talk) 18:59, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

"It was through these family and music industry connections that launched the band."

Latest comment: 11 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

The above sentence is currently in the first paragraph of the History section. Someone please fix it. --anon. 71.183.136.127 (talk) 02:24, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Aside from the grammatical issues, this sentence was out of place and made a claim that was not supported by a reference. I have removed it. Rephrasing, better placement in the paragraph and support of its assertion are needed before readding this information. --Khajidha (talk) 21:47, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
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