Talk:Lac-Mégantic, Quebec

Photos, maps, expansion

A road map of town would be good. And aerial photos from before and after the derailment. Also, perhaps the burn area map from the derailment article. This article definitely needs expansion, to properly summarize the derailment article, and cover all the areas of town that have been covered in the news lately, what was destroyed, what wasn't. Musi-Cafe apparently was an important place in town, for example. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 08:10, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

That seems a bit much as the information is already in (or should be in) the derailment article. Musi-Café is just another bar and wouldn't be famous worldwide except for its proximity to the train crash. We don't need two articles on the same topic. We do, however, need to check whether any info in this article is now outdated, ie. "X is the most historic building in town, go visit it today" makes sense only if X is still standing. K7L (talk) 13:15, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

No, since wikipedia is not concerned with only the today, it is also concerned with the past, so if X historic building existed, it should be part of the history of the town. As a major event, a significant summary of the crash should exist here. Rescue efforts and blame do not belong on this article, but a summary of the damage does belong here, and before and after photos would illustrate the damage. In any case, the before photo would be useful for the history of town. And a roadmap would matter regardless, unless they reconfigure the roads after they start rebuilding, in which case, a before would be for the historical town, and after would be for the future town. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 09:15, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

The photos of the disaster belong in the article about the disaster. Repeating them here is pointless redundancy. I'm removing these. K7L (talk) 06:07, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Except in special circumstances (like the train disaster map in the disaster's article), Wikipedia does not insert road maps into our articles; rather, users who want road maps can use the geographic coordinates link to choose any of several separate mapping websites (Bing Maps, Google Maps, etc.) And K7L did not, for the record, suggest that any building that was destroyed in the train incident should be erased entirely from the article; he suggested that we need to watch for situations where we're using an incorrect tense such that a building that was destroyed might be listed in the article as still existing. Bearcat (talk) 21:10, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I've removed the claim that the former Banque de Montréal building is "still standing". An online search finds "5193, rue Frontenac, G6B 1H2" as the address of the bank, which appears to have become a lawyer/legal aid office. If that address is correct, that puts this somewhere between the damaged Jean-Couteux pharmacy and ground zero. Not a good place to be.

Charred shell of a destroyed bank building, 5185-5193 Frontenac: http://globalnews.ca/news/704818/gallery-dramatic-photos-from-the-red-zone-in-lac-megantic/ K7L (talk) 12:23, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

File:Lac-Megantic derailment from space (4 July crop).jpg

Lac-Megantic from space

Why is this being removed? This clearly shows what Lac-Megantic looks like from space, in comparison with Quebec City, this has nothing to do with the derailment, since this was taken before the derailment. Obviously, this shows the town, not the derailment. (July 4 is days before the derailment, so this obviously isn't a derailment picture) -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 10:25, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

This doesn't "clearly show what Lac Megantic looks like" from anywhere. It's an infrared photo with a ridiculously large scale so that the town is only a blip at best. It's useless outside its original context. If you want more images, steal them from fr:Lac Mégantic or somewhere because adding this tells nothing useful about the town itself. K7L (talk) 12:34, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

There's no value to including this image in the article, as within the scale of the image Lac-Mégantic is almost too tiny to even count as a blip — it's literally about the size of the head of a pin. (And for the record, there's no value in including it in Quebec City either, as that article lacks any context to explain why Lac-Mégantic is the only other labelled location on it besides Quebec City itself.) If there were aerial images available that were much, much more closely zoomed in on Lac-Mégantic and Quebec City than this, those might be valuable and legitimate contributions to our articles on the cities — but this image serves no useful or encyclopedic purpose in either article. Bearcat (talk) 21:16, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Minor quibble with the two previous comments. fr:Lac Mégantic (no hyphen) is the lake, fr:Lac-Mégantic (with an hyphen) is the town.. As for the subject of this thread, the picture from space is not that useful. Bouchecl (talk) 13:48, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Before/After Photo

It would be nice for someone to create a legal version similar to this photo http://i.imgur.com/WgqO4XS.jpg for this article. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 14:23, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

It would certainly be nice, but how are you suggesting they do it? Taking an 'after' picture might not be too difficult (unless you want an aerial shot like the ones you link), but the 'before' picture is going to be difficult... AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:17, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

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