Talk:Koninklijke Militaire School
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Breda?
editEditor Drmies also removed a note I had placed at the top that said: "The Syarif Hamid II of Pontianak article says the school is in Breda"
His edit summary said "no it doesn't"
But indeed I doublechecked the Syarif Hamid II of Pontianak article and it says:
"Syarif completed his studies at the Koninklijke Militaire Academie in Breda, Holland; graduating as a lieutenant in the Royal Dutch East Indies Army." FloridaArmy (talk) 21:11, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- FloridaArmy as your quote above says it's talking about Koninklijke Militaire Academie not Koninklijke Militaire School which appear to be different places so Drmies was correct. So that I guess that also answers the question Drmies asked on your talk page, the list of Alumni was from articles referencing "Koninklijke Militaire...."? KylieTastic (talk) 21:27, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- Ahhhh. Okay. Thanks very much. It was all a bit confusing and there was also a school in Belgium with a similar name that turned up when I did Google searches. The next question is if there is an article on Koninklijke Militaire Academie? And I see that there is. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:29, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- FloridaArmy, please. That's why people have problems with your articles. Did you not even notice that Syarif was not a Dutch person? When have you ever person with a name like "Syarif Hamid II of Pontianak", a frigging Sultan, going to school at a military academy for non-commissioned officers? And didn't you yourself include a link to the KMS website, which says "Ermelo"? Drmies (talk) 21:32, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- I came across this subject at Dési Bouterse. Doesn't seem like an especially Dutch name but I'm no expert. We don't use "Academie" in American English and I've worked on many schools, not even foreign ones, where it's known as an academy and or a school. My goal was to get it sorted out. Hence why I left a note at the top of the page signlaing a contradiction.
- The names seem very similar to me. And I don't think I found an article on the Belgian school on Wikipedia which also has a similar name. Bottom line, I am not perfect but like to see things sorted out. I'm surprised I didn't notice the existing article on the Academie but was trying to keep a few things straight especially vis a vis the Belgian School and just missed it, and that there are two so similarly named Dutch Schools both with very prominent alums. I wanted to know where the long serving leader of Suriname went to school and couldn't find it on Wikipedia. Is he an alum of this school? I don't think I altered his article in that respect. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:59, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- @FloridaArmy:He is definitely an alumni from this school, because he joined when it was still a colony, and was probably stationed in Steenwijk (Johan van den Kornputkazerne[1]) for awhile, because that's where his son Dino Bouterse was born. There is a references at historiek, but I would use this one, because it's a leading news paper.[2] KittenKlub (talk) 14:13, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Johan van den Kornputkazerne, Meppelerweg, Steenwijk". Je Oude Kazerne Nu (in Dutch).
- ^ "Hé, eindelijk weer eens nieuws uit Suriname in de krant". NRC Handelsblad (in Dutch). 15 July 2017. Retrieved 13 June 2020.
Alumni
edit- Marco Kroon's article says he went to both schools.
- Dési Bouterse's article says he went to this school in Weert
- I didn't immediately see where Joannes Josephus van Mulken went but presumably the other academy
- Also for the two Shoemakers that were listed here I didn't see either school listed upon perusal. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- @FloridaArmy: About van Mulken and the two Schoemakers, they lived before the school was founded, so that can't be correct. I did find two candidates on :nl however neither has a wikipedia page here. Nico Tack who was an instructor and became a general, but he's no longer alive. Frank van der Meijden. He technically qualifies because he is currently the mayor of Laarbeek. Searching the internet only results in false positives, so that's no use. KittenKlub (talk) 19:03, 13 June 2020 (UTC)