Talk:Kevin O'Halloran/Archive 1

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This sentence is ambiguous. "In 1958, his parents drove all the way to Sydney to swim at the Australian Championships, but a recurring ear infection stopped him from performing at his peak." Surely his parents didn't go to swim. Could it be changed in some way, e.g. "In 1958, his parents drove all the way to Sydney to watch him swim at the Australian Championships, but a recurring ear infection stopped him from performing at his peak." to make it clearer?

Done Britmax 22:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

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- Milk's Favorite Cookie 15:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean with the refs. Can you clarify this? I looked at section one and every paragraph has a ref. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

As for the images, I don't think there are any acceptable images. The only pictures of him in the books are in 1956, posing with his medal, but {{PD-Australia}} only works for pre-1955 work. Fair use wouldn't cover it because the picture doesn't show anything unusual or flamboyant that would make the article hard to fathom without pictorial help. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok Looks good. You would require a better variety of references, that are actually verifiable. An internet website for example. - Milk's Favorite Cookie 02:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

erm, I'm afraid that since this is an Olympic year, the Australian Olympic Committee has revamped their website, and as a result, their athlete database has gone offline. If you look at Australian Olympic medalists in swimming, the link to his database entry is no longer there. However, the book records contain info not available online ever. I'm not sure what I can do for you. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:34, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm.... I'm going to ask for a second opinion. - Milk's Favorite Cookie 02:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

*cue second opinion* Using different medium of sources (specifically, internet sources) has never been a requirement for GA. People are actually encouraged to use book references, when applicable. This is one of those situations. I can personally vouch for Blnguyen's reliability, as he has written almost 40 GA/A/FA level articles using accurate book references. Nishkid64 (talk) 02:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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6. Images?: Pass

If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.- Milk's Favorite Cookie 23:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

No picture?

This is the FA and it doesn't even have a picture? What's going on here? Nwhit (talk) 01:08, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

An article doesn't need to have a picture to be considered a FA article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.160.155.102 (talk) 01:50, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Suicide?

I'm reading an article I kept from the Weekend Australian Magazine of 21-22 August 2004, where Richard Zachariah writes an extended piece on Murray Rose, including material from an interview. In it, he says quite unequivocally that Kevin O'Halloran and Murray Garretty both suicided.

Quote: Kevin O'Halloran suffered through crippling bouts of depression before shooting himself on his Western Australian property in 1976, aged 39; and Murray Garretty ... killed himself in the early 1970s.

Later: Reflecting on the suicides of O'Halloran and Garretty, Rose says he never underestimated the price of excellence. "One of the things that was linked to Kevin's death was that he always wanted to do well in individual events at the Olympics, and never achieved that. In Garretty's case, like Mark Spitz, there was an awful lot of pressure from his father. The emphasis was always on winning rather than personal best.

So, what do we make of this? I've looked for corroboration but have drawn a blank so far. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 04:00, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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