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Vardel/Valarde?
editOn the card where Keith Jardine fought Amir Rahnavardi, Keith was billed twice with different names: Keith Valarde during the tale of the tape, and after he won, Keith Vardel. Obviously neither of those are Jardine, so I was wondering if anyone had information on this. If it turns out to be worth mentioning, we can add it to the article. Thanks in advance. RedSkull619 04:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
The Stephen Bonnar fight
editProbably a lot of quotes from people other than Jardine would be good. I've yet to meet or hear anyone in MMA that thinks Jardine did not win that fight. It's considered by many as one of the biggest judging screwups UFC history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.29.150 (talk) 09:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- In the context of this article, though, do not "say" it was a controversial decision; "SHOW" it. If you have citations to other people who complained about the decision (e.g. Dana White, Joe Rogan, etc.), then note that those people disagreed with the judges' decision. That will demonstrate the controversy objectively and survive WP:NPOV and WP:NOR. Gromlakh (talk) 09:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Dana white has said multiple times already that even he said the decision was terrible. Said it once on the TUF series on spike and again on the carmichael dave show. It's very, very well known as contraversial fight, but it happened a long time ago and finding working links will be nightmarish. That said, I know MMA and will revert you all day to keep the wiki truthful.66.190.29.150 (talk) 10:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- I also believe it was a bad decision and that Jardine won. That's not the point. The point is that editing the page to simply say it was a "contraversial" (sic) decision is original research. You are the one saying it's controversial and you provide no support from anyone else. Read the provided link. If you can provide citations to where Dana White or someone else has criticized the decision, then do that. It would probably help the article. But do not engage in revert wars; they're disruptive and do nothing to advance your position. I would also point out for you the 3 revert rule, which you're dangerously close to violating. Please feel free to make constructive edits to the page (such as providing quotes from reliable sources on the outcome of the fight). But if you continue to simply revert to content that is in violation of long established Wikipedia policies, you risk being blocked from editing altogether. Gromlakh (talk) 10:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- It's not original at all. The president of the UFC said so during TUF interviews that before the recent decision fight where he awarded both fighter the prize money for winning that the Jardine-Bonnar decision was the wrong one as well. Seems you have decided to deny facts and revert war instead of actually debating anything. You supposedly know about MMA yet you have no idea of the half a dozen or so big names in MMA saying it was one of the worst decisions ever? It's household name fight for being robbed in MMA.66.190.29.150 (talk) 00:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Provide a proper reference citation from a reliable source and it could probably stay in the article. Gromlakh (talk) 00:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- I also believe it was a bad decision and that Jardine won. That's not the point. The point is that editing the page to simply say it was a "contraversial" (sic) decision is original research. You are the one saying it's controversial and you provide no support from anyone else. Read the provided link. If you can provide citations to where Dana White or someone else has criticized the decision, then do that. It would probably help the article. But do not engage in revert wars; they're disruptive and do nothing to advance your position. I would also point out for you the 3 revert rule, which you're dangerously close to violating. Please feel free to make constructive edits to the page (such as providing quotes from reliable sources on the outcome of the fight). But if you continue to simply revert to content that is in violation of long established Wikipedia policies, you risk being blocked from editing altogether. Gromlakh (talk) 10:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Bonnar wining i didnt understand but, what shocks me most is that shomehow it was a unamious decision against Jardine which is disgusting. Former fighters should be the judges not some dudes from the commision who clearly show no video guidelines for point winning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Punisher88 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Techno Viking
editThis nickname was added, reverted by me, and now re-added. I ran a google search and I see blogs and forum posts that say he looks like some guy from a you-tube video. Is there a RS that shows this is a real nickname? If there's not a RS quick I'd say it should be removed again.--Cube lurker (talk) 20:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- I couldn't find any reliable sources either so I reverted it. --aktsu (t / c) 20:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- I see this is still getting added, mainly by anon editors. If anyone can supply a reliable source to this being a real nickname please let's discuss it.--Cube lurker (talk) 17:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
It's not a real nickname...just something that get tossed around on MMA forums...he does look like the dude though, but no, not official. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.36.35.40 (talk) 02:41, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Trash
editI don't have an account but why did someone change his birthplace from Butte, Montana to Butt. Then changed his nickname from "The DEAN of Mean" to the incorrect "Queen of Mean." Perhaps its funny since I'm not a huge fan but incorrect all the same —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.229.241.171 (talk) 22:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Homosexuality
editthis page here says he's openly gay, yet I don't find any source on the internet confirming this. Vandalizing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.172.68 (talk) 22:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Yes it was Vandalism someone got rid of it though. Tomb Of Spirits (talk) 00:23, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Mean 1 MMA & Fitness
editI've noticed now that Jardine is going to be fighting on the Mean 1 card that he's been wearing T-shirts for Mean 1 even as far back as the UFC Fan expo for UFC 100. While going through Jardine's website, I stumbled upon information from posts Jardine himself has left there that he's at his gym (Mean 1 MMA & Fitness). I'm wondering if we should add this to his article somewhere that he not only owns this gym but is also putting on the card at the Route 66 Casino in Albuquerque, New Mexico as well? I think I read somewhere that using a fighter's website isn't a notable cite reference so if someone can give me some advice on how to approach this, I'd appreciate it. I want to get into expanding articles a bit but I want to make sure I'm doing it right before I proceed. Thanks. Dachknanddarice (T‖C) 19:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
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