Talk:Juan Bautista Alvarado

Alta California independence myth

This article has a serious error, in the fact that it considers Alta California and Mexico different entities, although one was part of the other, that is, Alta California was a "state" or "department" inside Mexico, just as today, California is a "state" inside the U.S. The author might have meant Mexico City (where the central government was located) but since no references are provided, there's no sufficient evidence to change all references in that way. It could also be that he used a modern POV (which would not be considered NPOV according to wikipedia standards) and state that the people involved returned to "present-day" Mexico (most probably the states of Baja California or Sonora) to be closer to the central government. 63.97.181.193 (talk) 21:28, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

The myth that there was ever an independent Alta California, beginning with Alvarado's 1836 rebellion, has been perpetuated mainly by one editor, User talk:Wighson. Editors concerned with accurate history should join me in urging Wighson to stop reverting corrections to this page. WCCasey (talk) 19:19, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Once again, "California Republic" mythology had to be corrected in this article. Please stop with the revisionist pseudo-history. WCCasey (talk) 06:04, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Photo removed is of same item (taken by museum staff)

identical flag as shown in b-&-w image currently in article "The 1836 Alvarado flag, possibly the oldest surviving flag of California. Courtesy of the Southwest Museum of the American Indian Collection, Autry National Center of the American West. 8.P.1."^{https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/where-to-find-californias-oldest-flag-other-objects-in-socals-archives}

user:Jeff in CA, Re diff: For what it's worth, the photo removed is of the same historical item at the museum but is a a color pic of it, taken by museum staff, rather than black-and-white (as taken in 1945 by Mark R. Harrington). --Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 21:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm just worried about copyright. Perhaps the black-and-white image is copyrighted by the museum as well. But, that one's been around so long, I thought maybe it's status had already been adjudicated. I'm just worried about swiping images from websites and declaring them non-copyrightable. Such behavior gives Wikipedia a black eye. (Especially as this user has had several images deleted off the Wikimedia Commons for similar violations: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hodgdon%27s_secret_garden). TuckerResearch (talk) 14:02, 23 February 2023 (UTC)