Talk:Josh Allen

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Josh Allen (quarterback)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 14:58, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Criteria

1. Well-written

Prose clear, concise, and understandable Y

Spelling, grammar, copy edit issues Y

Lead Y

Layout Y

Buzzwords/fiction/lists Y Good use of tables to display statistics.

2. Verifiable

No original research Y None apparent.

Inline citations are from reliable sources N  Done References 49 & 54 (Buffalo Rumblings) and 22 (SBNation) are to sports blogs. While I think SBNation and its team-specific blogs write useful and interesting content, I don't think they rise to the level of reliable sources. Reference 23 is to TMZ, and per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, there is not consensus on the reliability of TMZ for BLP pages. Reference 21 is to the New York Post, of which there is also no consensus at the perennial sources list, although the supplement to the RS guideline does state that "most editors prefer more reliable sources when available." Since the statement cited by sources 21-23 is also discussed in reference 24, an ESPN article, you could probably just remove 21-23 from the article.

List of references properly formatted Y

No COPYVIO Y Testing several sentences by Google search. One brought up matches at a possible mirror site which doesn't seem to be functioning anymore, and at revolvy.com, which attributes the content to Wikipedia. Another turned up wikivisually, which appears to also be a mirror site. There are no red flags for COPYVIO, and my tests turned up clean.

3. Broad in coverage

Covers major aspects Y

Stays focused on topic Y

4. Neutral Y

5. Stable Y

• As of writing. Allen is participating in an NFL playoff game on Jan. 4, so a spike in vandalism could occur if he does really good or really bad. But long-term, its been stable.

6. Illustrated if possible

Media tagged for copyright status Y Images appear to be used properly, according to image licensing information.

Media relevant Y

• @Hog Farm: Thanks for the review. I've taken out the more questionable sources regarding Allen's high school tweets. As for the other refs from Buffalo Rumblings/SB Nation, I'll keep them there for now until I can find more reliable replacements. Regards, --WuTang94 (talk) 16:54, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
  • @WuTang94: Good job overall on the article. I've made a few small adjustments, like spelling out abbreviations. I also removed the external link to Allen's Twitter account, per Wikipedia:External links/Perennial sources#Twitter. The article is really close to GA status, great work! Hog Farm (talk) 19:48, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
    • @Hog Farm: Alrighty, just replaced the source for the 2018 Jets game. Also took out the other Buffalo Rumblings analysis article as a reference and that sentence in general. Thanks again for the insights! --WuTang94 (talk) 20:06, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2020

Something is wrong with the NFL combine stats on the page for Josh Allen: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Josh_Allen_(quarterback). Values for arm length, hand size, and vertical jump are clearly wrong. Correct stats here: https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=27009. For arm length, change "1/4 inch (0.01 m)" to "33.25 inches"; for hand size, change "1/8 inch (0.00 m)" to 10.13 inches"; for vertical jump, change "1/2 inch (0.01 m)" to "33.5 inches". This is my first time suggesting an edit--I hope I have done it correctly. 2601:5C2:202:1620:283A:47CA:DCAC:FBB0 (talk) 23:27, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thank you for pointing this out. There was an error in the usage of a template that displays fractions and the integer portion of the table value was not displayed. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:09, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Possible change at "Games started" stat?

Under the "Statistics" section, for the 2020 season, it lists Allen as starting 15 games, with the following note:

a: Because the first play of the Buffalo-Miami game in Week 17 had Allen lined up at WR and the ball snapped directly to Devin Singletary, this game is not counted as a QB start for Allen.

While it is true that Allen doesn't get the start at QB, he would still get credit for a start, albeit at the WR position but a start nonetheless. Should the "GS" stat for 2020 be changed to 16? Pro Football Reference even lists him as starting 16 games in 2020 (see here under the "Passing" section) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.172.161.29 (talk)

Pro Bowl Count

Please stop adding the 2022 Pro Bowl to Josh Allen's list of Pro Bowls. He was not selected by vote, nor did he play as an alternate. He was invited as an alternate but declined; therefore, the Pro Bowl does not count towards his statistics. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 19:06, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

in that case than tom brady has 0 pro bowls? makes no sense it counts Purpetic (talk) 22:08, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Brady's Pro Bowls weren't as an alternate. Declining to go to the Pro Bowl doesn't mean that it doesn't count. Declining to go as an alternate (as Allen did in the 2021 season), doesn't count as a Pro Bowl selection. Also, to clarify, the 2022 Pro Bowl is for the 2021 NFL season. Allen made the Pro Bowl for the 2022 NFL season (the 2023 Pro Bowl), which is included in his statistics. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 06:19, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 18 August 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus has deemed the quarterback the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. (closed by non-admin page mover) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 02:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

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• Josh Allen (quarterback) → Josh Allen
• Josh Allen → Josh Allen (disambiguation)

– Josh Allen (quarterback) is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, judging by the page view graph and the fact that Google results are almost exclusively about the QB. Beefaloe (formerly SpursySituation) (talk) 22:43, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

• Support. Here's another look at the page views: [1]. Adumbrativus (talk) 23:35, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
• Support. Here is WikiNav (clickthrough from the disambiguation page). 676 outgoing clicks (next highest is 69) out of 901 unfiltered views of the disambiguation page. SilverLocust 💬 00:04, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2023

Under the career statistics heading, “Career Best” within in the stated chart diagram, should be listed and written as “Career High” as in line with other NFL players on Wikipedia for proper stats understanding. Jctmp23 (talk) 04:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: There was a rough consensus to use "career best" instead of "career high" when this was previously discussed in the past. The reason for this is that the intention is to highlight the player's best stat, not necessarily the highest (think of interceptions). Hey man im josh (talk) 14:35, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

I understand, but for an average Wikipedia viewer, it comes off as confusing going from Josh Allen’s stats to say, a player like Tom Brady where his statistics have been labeled with the “Career high” marker. When “Career best” is highlighted, it comes off almost as a positive bias for that particular player, instead of just showcasing that player’s highest stats in a neutral way. If we’re going to highlight a player’s “best stat” doesn’t that sound a bit biased to you? It’s just a stat, we don’t need to offer a form of praise, we just need to state the facts about a particular player’s stat in a season of his career, so “Career high” should stand and be in place of “Career best”, as it offers an unbiased and far more representing form of stat highlights. Jctmp23 (talk) 22:00, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

I don't see it as confusing or biased at all. The text is clear and accurate, it's highlighting the career best. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:03, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Edited this page somewhat

I edited Josh Allen's page (since Josh changed his last name to Hines-Allen), but not all of it, so someone's just gonna have to edit the rest, his last name should NOT be Allen, it's Hines-Allen now. https://www.nfl.com/news/joshua-hines-allen-jaguars-star-pass-rusher-changes-name-to-honor-family 65.130.245.81 (talk) 22:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

I hope you're joking. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)