Talk:Joseph Bazalgette
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Tone
editI've tagged the "Sewer works" section for tone, as phrasing like "The basic premise of this expensive project was wrong, as so often happens, but the end result was much better than expected, which is a rare occurrence." and similar feels a bit chatty for an encyclopaedia article. Thryduulf (talk) 12:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- I can see why you would object to that sentence, but it seems to be gone, and the tone now seems fine to me. I'm going to remove the tag. --Trovatore (talk) 07:59, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
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Rainfall records
editIn the 1870s, J.W Bazalgette lived at Spring Gardens, Westminster, and kept monthly rainfall records. These are now (Apr 2020) being digitized and studied by the Rainfall Rescue project. https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/a914f098-1b5e-4b13-8055-0681a5eafc71.jpeg 78.144.95.84 (talk) 22:12, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Possible citogenesis
editThis is the source of a possible citogenesis, plus the sources that were added today. Reported by Ganesha811 on the Teahouse.
Bazalgette's foresight may be seen in the diameter of the sewers. When planning the network he took the densest population, gave every person the most generous allowance of sewage production and came up with a diameter of pipe needed. He then said 'Well, we're only going to do this once and there's always the unforeseen'<ref>{{Cite web|last=Gapper|first=John|date=3 October 2020|title=John Gapper’s fantasy dinner: Joseph Bazalgette and Rosalind Franklin|url=https://www.ft.com/content/8303b31e-64bc-4036-9c10-7c6dd4f3c1e6|url-status=live|website=FT Magazine|publisher=Financial Times}}</ref> and doubled the diameter to be used. His foresight allowed for the unforeseen increase in population density with the introduction of the tower block; with the original, smaller pipe diameter the sewer would have overflowed in the 1960s, rather than coping until the present day as it has.
TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 01:52, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ganesha811: I found this entry in The Concise Dictionary of National Biography from 1922, but still no dice on the quote nor the diameter issue. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 02:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- TheTechnician27, good find. The closest I have come to finding anything so far is this record from the House of Commons (link), which at least comes close to approaching the subject. However, it does not actually involve Bazalgette, but rather the MP and a Mr. Pilbrow discussing enlarging a particular pipe if the *population* were doubled, not the diameter of the pipe. I think it's just coincidence, and not actually related. Ganesha811 (talk) 04:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- For anyone reading this section after seeing the hidden note on the main page, here's a link to the discussion on the Teahouse that contains the most detail about this issue
- Ganesha811 (talk) 14:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- This claim just appeared on the top page of Reddit today[1], it is likely to become a persistent myth so anyone reading this in the future should be weary if they have no citation before the 21st century. Citizen Premier (talk) 08:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- What a pity. I'm glad to see at least a few people noted that it was nowhere in the article, and a couple even checked the talk page and realized what happened. With luck, the debunkers will get more prominence next time it's reposted. —Ganesha811 (talk) 08:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- This claim just appeared on the top page of Reddit today[1], it is likely to become a persistent myth so anyone reading this in the future should be weary if they have no citation before the 21st century. Citizen Premier (talk) 08:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- TheTechnician27, good find. The closest I have come to finding anything so far is this record from the House of Commons (link), which at least comes close to approaching the subject. However, it does not actually involve Bazalgette, but rather the MP and a Mr. Pilbrow discussing enlarging a particular pipe if the *population* were doubled, not the diameter of the pipe. I think it's just coincidence, and not actually related. Ganesha811 (talk) 04:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Wording leads to wrong interpretation?
editI'm commenting here because I'm not familiar with the subject matter. The 'Early Life' first paragraph appears to say that Bazalgette's mother was the grandson ... which seems unlikely. The sentence probably needs rearranging. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2403:B4C0:F100:600:1A60:24FF:FE9D:D8F4 (talk) 14:43, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed - good catch, thanks for pointing that out. —Ganesha811 (talk) 15:07, 29 February 2024 (UTC)