Talk:José Padilla (criminal)
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A picture caption is wrong
editOne states he is in South Carolina, one states he is in Florida, but they're THE SAME PICTURE!!!!1137.110.115.141 (talk) 00:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I was just going to type that... I spent a couple minutes comparing the pictures, and I agree that the pictures are identical. Someone screwed up... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.209.248.9 (talk) 22:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Churchhill's "little eichman's" quote sure seems appropriate now — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.24.57.126 (talk) 22:11, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Convicted on all 3 charges
editJose Padilla was convicted on all 3 charges today. The article needs to be updated, and as the previous consensus below (see: title) discusses, I recommend the title be changed from Prisoner to something more befitting. I suggest Jose Padilla(Terrorist Sympathizer) as he had not committed any acts of terrorism per say, but he did aide and aspire to become one. Pyrex238 23:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- So should we change "George W. Bush" to "George W. Bush (former drunken fratboy and cokehead)"? Such characterizations don't belong in article titles. Will you change it again if his conviction is overturned on appeal? When updating about the conviction, be sure to mention that the jurors sat down in the courtroom in three rows, clothed in red, white, and blue -- an unbiased, judicial lot. -- Jibal 21:45, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- The above criticism needs to be taken seriously. Furthermore, does the subject of this article call himself "Jose" or "Abdullah?" We should call him by the name he prefers to use for himself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7081:4601:c053:6846:b0a5:1e60:d947 (talk) 22:22, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Jose Padilla (convicted supporter of terrorism) seems to best reflect his current legal status. However, I am not sure how to go about changing the title of an article, so someone else could try it?Kevinp2 23:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- It is improper to refer to him as a "terrorist" or "terrorist supporter." Firstly, use of such a term violates npov because one person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. Secondly, it is debatable whether he is a terrorist or terrorist supporter, even according to an American pov. The conviction is controversial and questionable. The use of torture on him, if true, is a flagrant violation of international law and would invalidate the verdict. I think the current name of the article is the ideal name. Life, Liberty, Property 13:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- Indeed, "José Padilla (torture victim)" would be more accurate and neutral, -- Jibal 08:25, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
This is an encyclopedia. Calling him a torture victim or a prisoner sounds like political propaganda. Jose Padilla is now, factually, a convicted supporter of terrorism. The title needs to change.A.V. 18:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Criminal?
edit“However, more recent evidence suggests that the "dirty bomb" plot was likely a ruse to get out of Pakistan and based on an internet joke website purporting to describe how to build an H-bomb by swinging buckets of uranium as fast as possible.” Sounds more like injustice than crime. Nicmart (talk) 06:51, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Torture at hands of US government barely mentioned?
edit"Padilla was taken from a U.S. jail in 2002 by military agents, declared an “enemy combatant” and secretly transported to a military brig in South Carolina. He was imprisoned without charge for nearly four years, subjected to extreme abuse and was unable to communicate with his lawyers or family for two years. The illegal treatment included forcing Padilla into stress positions for hours on end, punching him, depriving him of sleep and threatening him with further torture and death."
Why is important information like this nowhere to be found in the page? Its barely spoken about, except in passing. 2601:6C4:4000:F410:7486:AAD7:89DD:FE16 (talk) 14:11, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Status
editIs he still incarcerated or has he been released? 2001:A62:144D:F02:E8D5:25EB:9B7C:D5CF (talk) 09:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- If his full sentence of 21 years began in 2002, he should have been released by now. If it began in 2007, he might remain in prison until 2028... 2001:A62:144D:F02:E8D5:25EB:9B7C:D5CF (talk) 09:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)