Talk:John Henry Newman

Feast days

Perhaps the article could address why his Anglican feast day is the anniversary of his death, but in the Roman Church it is 9 October. Jonathunder (talk) 17:39, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes,why? Shouldn’t the feast day be the date of death? Some clarity needed. 2600:1010:B065:5039:C572:FC83:D825:7F05 (talk) 22:38, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Harriet Elizabeth, Eldest sister or youngest sister?

Article says former, Thomas Mozley and other articles says otherwise. KEleison (talk) 08:26, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

The father was a Freemason

Wilfrid Meynell wrote a biography about cardinal Newman, whose first chapter affirms:

BANKING in mid-Victorian England is associated with philanthropy and a benign evangelicalism. Strange to say, three of the most illustrious converts to the Catholic Church in the early middle of the nineteenth century were sons of men connected with those innermost shrines of Babylon, London banks—Manning, Newman, Ward. Like bankers, brewers also, perhaps by some freak of restitutional justice, were men mostly given to good works—out of the brewery. Cardinal Newman's father first banked, and then brewed, failing at both. It was not that he allowed his diversions, his Freemasonry, or his music, or his great scheme for the reafforesting of England.

— [1]

The same membership to the Satanist Freemasonry is stated by the newmansociety.ie website. there are couple of reliable sources that can be cited in the article.

Furthermore, cardinal John Henry Newman had a long-time correspondence with another member of the Meynell family. According to the project Muse, he was Dr. Charles Meynell, professor of Philosophy at the Seminary of Socott near Birmingham. Possibly it could not be a case of homonymy. If this is true, then the first source will be corroborated and result more reliable. Hope someone helps.Theologian81sp (talk) 16:31, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Satanist Freemasonry? Highly tendentious POV; hope it does not appear in the article. 2600:1010:B065:5039:C572:FC83:D825:7F05 (talk) 22:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

What do you call him as a saint?

St. John Newman? Article should make this clear. 2600:1010:B065:5039:C572:FC83:D825:7F05 (talk) 22:42, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

St. John Henry Cardinal Newman seems to be favoured by his fans, such as societies set up to promote him. We are already seeing, I think, that there are more press references to him as "St John Henry Newman" rather than "Cardinal Newman" so I expect the "Cardinal" will be dropped. But until then, it is better to have both, so that material it is clear that older material that called him Cardinal Newman is about the same guy. In some circumstances John Henry "Cardinal Newman" Newman is appropriate. If you really wanted to be exact, you could say St John Henry Cardinal-deacon Newman :-) Rick Jelliffe (talk) 01:28, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Puseyite?

This sentence in the article dubious and the citation is to a work published in 1911: In 1835 Pusey joined the movement, which, so far as concerned ritual observances, was later called "Puseyite".

Edward Bouverie Pusey was not interested in Anglican ritualism (or the revival of Catholic ritual in the Church of England) and said so on several occasions. He was never an Anglo-Catholic. IACOBVS (talk) 05:27, 12 February 2023 (UTC)