Talk:John Bullock Clark

GA Review

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Reviewer: Steelkamp (talk · contribs) 03:51, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Good article criteria

Well written

Early life and militia service

• educated in such schools as the county afforded. What does this mean? As someone without much background knowledge on this, it's hard to tell.
  • I'm not quite sure either, which is why I've quoted this instead of trying to summarize it in my own words. Hog Farm _Talk 02:07, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
• began studying the law. Isn't began studying law a more typical wording?
  • Done
• Clark was a county treasurer from 1823 to 1825. What county is this?
  • Howard County, clarified
• The part about prior surrender terms is confusing me. Was Clark's involvement in the war all following the surrender? Was the Mormon Extermination Order after the surrender? When did this surrender happen?
  • The Mormons surrendered in between the Extermination Order and Clark's arrival. Have clarified this. Hog Farm _Talk 02:07, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Political career

• None

Confederate service

• which was geographically located in the north-central part of the state. This could be simplified to which was located in the north-central part of the state.
  • Done
• congress[men] without a constituency. What does this mean? As someone without much background knowledge on this, it's hard to tell.
  • Have wikilinked constituency, which I think should help. The basic idea is that the congressional districts they represented were at that point administrative fictions
• Once his political rights were rehabilitated. What are political rights?
  • I've expanded on this a little bit - basically, ex-Confederates were barred from holding political office and similar things. Missouri went further and barred lawyers (and even religious leaders) who would not or could not take the Ironclad Oath.

Verifiable with no original research

• I checked the sources that are accessible online and found no issues.

Broad in its coverage

• There is no mention of any wife or partners? Who was the mother of his child?
  • I had to do some deep digging, but found an old source from 1926 that give some details on this. As to partners, the only thing concrete I've noticed in the modern sources is the allegations of the Pike's mistress stuff.

Illustrated, if possible

• Optional: I recommend alt text for all images.
  • Have attempted to add.

General

That's it from me. Putting review on hold. Steelkamp (talk) 05:51, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

@Steelkamp: - Thanks for the review! Replies are above - most are actioned although I'm not sure what to do about the "such school as the county afforded" one. As a heads-up, I've added minimal usage of three new sources - Vandiver 1926, which contains elaborations on non-controversial information written by a guy who knew Clark (avoiding anything not clear-cut with that source due to its age and nature), Parrish 2001 which covers some of the loss of political rights background material, and then a source from the Missouri state government, which also covers political rights background material. Hog Farm _Talk 02:07, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Could "educated in such schools as the county afforded" mean that he educated in schools available in the county, which may have been poorly funded and non-prestigious? Steelkamp (talk) 08:58, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Probably - would paraphrasing the quote to educated in the local schools work for you? Hog Farm _Talk 02:44, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that would work. Steelkamp (talk) 04:14, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Steelkamp - Have made the change with that. Hog Farm _Talk 01:36, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

A-class review

@WP:MILHIST coordinators: - would this article be eligible for MILHIST a-class review when I finally get less busy in early August, or is Clark's militia service too fleeting for it to be "MILHIST enough"? Hog Farm _Talk 01:22, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Appears to me to be MILHIST, without room for doubt. One need not be a direct combatant or field commander to be an important part of military history. –♠Vamí_IV†♠ 02:11, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

I think that he is MilHist notable, given his wartime activities and commands. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:51, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

I have changed the assessment to A class=pass. If I have omitted a step or made a mistake, please correct it and/or let me know. Donner60 (talk) 00:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC)