Talk:Jinnah family
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Poswal and Kasana?
editLooks like vandalism.
Poswal should be Wadia and Kasana should be Lohana.
Jina Poonja
editLiquat Merchant calls his father Jina Poonja.[1] His brothers were Walji Poonja and Nathoo Poonja. The name Jina must be the popular Gujarati name Jhina (ઝીણા or ઝીણાભાઈ, see Gujarati article ). Malaiya (talk) 20:38, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
The uncles of Muhammad ali Jinnah were Walji Poonja and Nathoo Poonja,[2][3] with very Hindu names, his mother was Mithibai. I have seen in multiple places that Muhammad ali Jinnah's grandfather Poonja Meghji was a convert.[4][5][6][7][8]. I will try to locate more references.
Note Gujarati common convention that father's name is used as the second name (as in Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi).
Malaiya (talk) 00:40, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- ^ The truth about Aslam Jinnah, Dawn 10 Jul 2009
- ^ Jinnah`s extended family, Dawn 12 Aug 2010
- ^ Quaid’s grand-nephew issues clarification
- ^ The enigma that was M A Jinnah
- ^ A baniya in my backyard, Tahir Mehdi, Dawn, 15 May 2012
- ^ Hindu antecedent of Muslim Jinnah, Daily Tines, MAY 20, 2018
- ^ Jinnah: The Name, Dileep Karanth Jinnah: The Name, Dileep Karanth, 2017
- ^ Free Press Journal, May 17, 2018
Merge?
editAm just wondering if this article is ok on its own, or maybe might be more profitably merged with the main Jinnah article, or linked to it, please? Any feedback? Thanks, Khani100 (talk) 08:12, 14 April 2012 (UTC)Khani100
Almost all of this information is already given in the Template:Muhammad Ali Jinnah in the Muhammad Ali Jinnah article and one really fails to see the rationale of repeating/duplicating so much material? Any comments/feedback pl? Khani100 (talk) 14:14, 15 April 2012 (UTC)Khani100
- I suppose it is notable enough. Templates are to facilitate the editors and are not a replacement for actual articles. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:45, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Political family?
edit[1] Is it? Anymore? ...also, is it present anywhere else in South Asia other than Indo-Pak? The last version seemed better. --lTopGunl (talk) 06:57, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- You're probably right, the change was based more on the assumption that the two main people of the family (MA Jinnah and Fatima Jinnah) were political personalities, hence it was added. As for South Asia.... Jinnah became notable before India or Pakistan existed, that's why I found South Asia more neutral. But that is not a big deal. The family can't really be called "Indian" because his descendants are actually part of the Wadia family. Mar4d (talk) 07:31, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Right... it should be called Pakistani. The descendants from Wadia family are not actually his descendants. His family is Pakistani per se. How about replacing with "Pakistani"? Also better to say it like "family the political personalities" rather than "political family" like you explained now. Political family is generally used for the ones in politics. This was a stand alone case by two people of the family. --lTopGunl (talk) 07:38, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- You're probably right, the change was based more on the assumption that the two main people of the family (MA Jinnah and Fatima Jinnah) were political personalities, hence it was added. As for South Asia.... Jinnah became notable before India or Pakistan existed, that's why I found South Asia more neutral. But that is not a big deal. The family can't really be called "Indian" because his descendants are actually part of the Wadia family. Mar4d (talk) 07:31, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Quaid e Azam essay
editRemoval of first generation
editI think information on the first generation of the Jinnah family should be included, for example as was previously held on the page here https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Jinnah_family&diff=prev&oldid=1143204285. The source is an on-topic, scholarly published work by Routledge. It is thus in fact a reliable source. Chariotrider555 (talk) 23:57, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Reinstated given lack of discussion. Chariotrider555 (talk) 23:14, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
Removal of academic source and addition of news source
editRecently IPs have been removing content sourced to Panigrahi (2004) and replacing it from content sourced to Daily Times (Pakistan) (https://dailytimes.com.pk/242278/hindu-antecedent-of-muslim-jinnah/). The article in question is not even original to the news source, and at the bottom states it is copied from a blog. Compared to an academically published book (Routledge) written by D.N. Panigrahi, former Senior Lecturer in History at the University of Delhi and Deputy Director at the Nehru Memorial Museum and Library, written about the Partition itself, the "news" article is of much poorer reliability than the book. Chariotrider555 (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2023 (UTC)