Talk:Jesse McCartney

Personal life

Anybody know anything (that isn't just rumour) that could be used to improve this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.53.36 (talk) 17:51, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Jesse is NOT Paul McCartney's son and he is not related to him in anyway!

I find some incoherent facts in this guy's biography. It states that he's an American singer-songwriter, but was born in Liverpool, England, to Paul and Linda McCartney. It seems that he just simply shares his name and career with former Beatle: Sir Paul McCartney, but they aren't relatives at all. Can anybody clarify this situation? This wiki biography is mixing and screwing facts. Indeed James, the last son of Paul and Linda, is about 10 years older than Jesse; and he (James) and his brothers were born in London, but not in Liverpool like their father. According to this biography, Jesse began his career at the age of 11 in Los Angeles and made all his career at the USA... I don't believe that Paul and Linda would have sent alone one of their sons to many thousand of miles away at such a young age. According to another biography [1] Jesse was born in New York, to Ginger and Scott McCartney... both of them from the USA. I can only guess that Jesse's powerful name might have been of tremendous impact in pop business. Pheuticus (talk) 04:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I would say it's only vandalism by people who liked to make fun of people with same surname. They are not related at all, and the same goes with Miranda Richardson and Natasha Richardson. w.tanoto-soegiri (talk) 18:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

thanx for clearing for us the miss under standeing but i stell wana now if jesse is on a real hockup with hayden?

I have included in the Article the fact that Jesse is not related to Paul McCartney. Most readers are bound to wonder, yet the Article does not inform them. 206.45.255.144 (talk) 21:32, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

The only way that this information could possibly be relevant is if you could produce a number of reliable sources demonstrating that this is a common misconception, otherwise it's just trivia. --Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:44, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

hey guys it said that Jesse was nominated for Kids Choice in 2009 but he actually won it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.228.248.233 (talk) 14:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

i wana now today befor tommorow=p —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.43.6.1 (talk) 17:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Edited to remove irrelevant fangirlish additions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.123.61.26 (talk) 08:09, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Citation needed

If there are any citations for these group of sentences for which I just removed:

"He also appeared on daytime television's hit soap opera, All My Children. At the age of 12, Jesse joined a boy band known as Dream Street. He was the youngest in the band and the funniest. After Dream Street, he wrote his hit single, Beautiful Soul and since then has had a very successful singing (and acting) career."

Then we can keep it. It's probably libellous if it doesn't have a citation. Minimac (talk) 06:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

undo revision by unknown up (vandalism)

fixed random rambling additions --ProfPolySci45 (talk) 03:12, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Jesse McCartney

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Jesse McCartney's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "billboard1":

• From Backstreet Boys: Up for DiscussionPost Comment (2005-07-02). "Never Gone – Backstreet Boys". Billboard.com. Retrieved 2009-10-19.
• From Have It All (Jesse McCartney album): Lipshutz, Jason (30 November 2010). "Jesse McCartney Letting Shoppers 'Have It All' After Holidays". Billboard.com. Retrieved 9 December 2010.
• From 51st Grammy Awards: Information Not Found | Billboard.com
• From Pulse (Toni Braxton album): Up for DiscussionPost Comment (2009-09-14). "Toni Braxton "Pulse" Album Preview". Billboard.com. Retrieved 2010-03-23.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 17:52, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Sick

Can anyone change the picture of Jesse? I think it's a terrible choice for a picture. The main reason I say this is because In the picture Jesse just looks sick and there are a lot of better pictures of him out there. So will anyone do that? 69.14.13.111 (talk) 09:18, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Unless you are the copyright holder of the images, or can get permission for use, most photos you find online are not usable here. See WP:IUP for an introduction to the somewhat complex policies involved in how pictures are handled on Wikipedia. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 13:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Full name

In this interview with Busradio, McCartney says his full name is Jesse Abraham Arthur McCartney. How can that be used in the article, since I don't believe YouTube links are considered reliable references, per se. I can't seem to find any other sources online that meet Wikipedia standards. Please discuss. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 18:46, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

@Ebyabe: the primary concern with Youtube links is that they often link to copyright violating material. In this specific case the link is to a BusRadio interview with Jesse McCartney on BusRadio's own Youtube channel, therefore copyright is not a concern and it can be used as a reliable source for his name.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:36, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

mall> 04:00, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Should "Have it all" (planned for release in 2010, ultimately unreleased), be listed in the discography?

I am opening this discussion in order to prevent an edit war that seems to be brewing over the status of the album Have It All. For context (just in case this spirals and we need an independent review), Have It All was a studio album recorded by McCartney and was planned for release in 2010. Release was then postponed to 2012 and ultimately entirely cancelled. Apparently, though, limited pressings of the album appear available online every so often and apparently have been sold [[2]]; though this may be taken with a grain of salt and we can discuss this below.

If this information is taken at face value, then I believe that the album should be included in the discography as it:
a) is, in fact, a studio album;
b) seems to be pretty notable (wikinotability in itself is a high bar to pass); and
c) has actual copies in circulation.

Debate below.

AriTheHorse^{talk to me!} 03:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

This is very simple. Albums that went without an official release do NOT belong in the discography section of an artist’s main page. Now, it can be included on Jesse’s discography page, as an unreleased album with its own section. However, I have never seen another case where an album that ultimately went unreleased was still included in the discography section of an artist’s main page. I’m not sure why an exception would be made here. 2601:48:8100:6920:A4AE:F3FD:2705:CF9E (talk) 15:13, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Just wanted to add on here that if you go to the pages for the albums that came before and after Have It All, the album listed after and before them is each other, not Have It All. In other words, Have It All is not included in his chronology of albums. So again, I’m really puzzled as to why it would be included on his main page, but skipped over in his album chronology. If anything, it would need to be added to the album chronology if we want to keep it on his main page. But again, I’m not sure why we’d do that for an album that ultimately went unreleased. 2601:48:8100:6920:598F:B441:E42E:3335 (talk) 22:44, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

There's literally an edit on the page for Departure from Ss112 where Have It All was removed as the next album in his chronology, with the comment "not part of his chronology if it was unreleased": http://en.m.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Departure_(Jesse_McCartney_album)&oldid=1144740655 2601:48:8100:6920:6CBA:7463:3ED1:AC8D (talk) 22:51, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

I see your point. There is also very little about article discography sections, so I've been mostly going off of the WikiProject Discographies' style guide proposal for discography pages, as neither the MOS (manual of style) guidelines for "lists of works" nor any other WP source that I could find gives any other significant indication of potential overall consensus about discography pages or sections in articles.

Before we say that this is wrapped up, I'd like to see if there is anyone else who wants to comment. Moreover, I don't really care as much about the actual issue at hand as I care about the fact that if we go about removing albums for discography sections, we should have at least some sort of agreement as to how or whether it should be done. Best, AriTheHorse^{talk to me!} 00:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

As for examples, here are a few:

• Lennon-McCartney#Unreleased_songs
• Chico Benymon
• Steven Van Zandt#Discography
• Jason_Weaver#Discography

AriTheHorse^{talk to me!} 16:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

As for why we might not be seeing more unreleased albums in discographies is that they are generally not considered "notable" enough for that, not specifically because they are unreleased. Being unreleased usually means that an album is not notable for inclusion. If, however, we believe that an unreleased album is notable enough to be included in a discography section, then its status as unreleased makes no difference. AriTheHorse^{talk to me!} 16:49, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Well what about Have It All makes it notable enough to include? Also, in all of your examples about unreleased albums (not singles), it also specified that it was unreleased. So perhaps we can keep it up, but to be consistent we should add a hyphen and then the word “unreleased” after the album title. 2601:48:8100:6920:9F8:F3EF:1A8:9C48 (talk) 18:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Fair. I don't really have an issue with that. My argument for notability was in my original comment and is as follows:

"... If this information is taken at face value, then I believe that the album should be included in the discography as it:

a) is, in fact, a [fully recorded] studio album [with several singles independently released from it];

b) seems to be pretty notable by nature (wikinotability in itself is a high bar to pass); and

c) has actual copies in circulation."

I think, however, that if the issue comes down to notability, then we should probably put out a request for a third opinion to encourage somebody else to help resolve the situation. Best, AriTheHorse^{Talk to me!} 19:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

For now I’ll just add the unreleased info on the page, as it seems everyone is on board with that. 2601:48:8100:6920:9F8:F3EF:1A8:9C48 (talk) 21:26, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Alright, sounds good. AriTheHorse^{Talk to me!} 01:25, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

For some reason, another user is still trying to revert my edit. This is really getting annoying. 2601:48:8100:6920:9F8:F3EF:1A8:9C48 (talk) 01:30, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Hrmph that's quite annoying. I see you've dealt with it already, and hopefully they let up after that. If they don't, I'll see to it that appropriate action is taken.

It seems that this discussion has mostly come to a close. If anything comes up, or if some other user wants to disagree, it would still be much welcome.

Lastly, 2601:48:8100:6920:..., thank you for your civility -- it is a much-needed thing in this world right now. All the best, AriTheHorse^{Talk to me!} 04:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Np, and I appreciate the work done on your part to get this resolved! 2601:48:8100:6920:E8D1:88EC:DEED:D20C (talk) 13:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Oh I see, an edit summary would be helpful in the future. Happy editing! Geardona (talk to me?) 01:34, 31 January 2024 (UTC)