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List of names that refer to Jehovah?
editAll the names in bible that start with Jeho, sometimes even just Jo, refer by definition to the name Jehovah. Jehoshaphat, Jehosheba, Jehoshua, Jehoram, Jehonathan, Jehonadab, (update after) etcetera, so where is the list of names in the is article? Where is the article for this massive list of names that happens to exist if you include the suffixed names along with the prefixed names? This article states that the Tetragrammaton is in the bible almost seven thousand times, but I have little doubt that if you include all th names that refer to the Tetragrammaton there are likely tens of thousands of references. This seems like a glaring omission from both this article and from Wikipedia. 24.78.228.96 (talk) 09:02, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- "This seems like a glaring omission from both this article and from Wikipedia." No such omission. There is a partial list of such theophoric names in the main article on theophoric names. Dimadick (talk) 11:08, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not to mention a list of theophoric names added to either this or the Tetragrammaton articles would make them ridiculously long; they are lengthy enough already, plus there's a link to the Theophoric names article in the "See also" section. Stephen Walch (talk) 18:36, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- (Personal attack removed), I scanned the entire article looking for some of those examples, and there are none, and worse, you're referring to a completely different article, with a link to all Gods at the end of this one. Just adding a small sample as an example in the article wouldn't hurt anything, (Personal attack removed). This is actually a more appropriate link for the see also section: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Theophoric_name#Yahweh ... (This post is about the link at the bottom of the article) 2604:3D09:BA7E:8D20:BF:BD96:3105:E481 (talk) 05:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm talking about their comments, it isn't a personal attack at all. At worst it might be called uncivil, but it can't be because I'm talking about the words not them.
- (a) it is deceptive to just have at the very very bottom of the article a link that goes to some general, practically random article, when this article goes into great detail about the validity of this translation. It's completely unacceptable.
- (b) not having a small section instead, with some few examples, of the consistency of translation with other names in the bible, is withholding important facts.
- Neither of those things is an attack, you are censoring for the sake of chopping of the (metaphorical) exclamation points I used, not genuine judgment that an unbiased judge would used, but most probably
emotionalbiased interference. 2604:3D09:BA7E:8D20:BF:BD96:3105:E481 (talk) 06:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm talking about their comments, it isn't a personal attack at all. At worst it might be called uncivil, but it can't be because I'm talking about the words not them.
BCE vs BC
editAn article about the Name of God but will not reference Christ by means of BC. 165.255.99.10 (talk) 19:11, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- The article describes a translation of a Hebrew name of God that is used in the Old Testament. Some modern translations include the name in their rendering of the NT but it is not in the original manuscripts. There is no special reason to assert a Christian POV in the article and WP:ERA applies.—Jeffro77 (talk) 23:17, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- 165.255.99.10 (Someone has to call out the mistruth here) It says right in the article, under translations that it is QUOTED in the New Testament 128 times from the Old Testament. Some say only 78, but that's still not nothing as implied by him. 2604:3D09:BA7E:8D20:BF:BD96:3105:E481 (talk) 08:09, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
A sub-section is missing
editWould someone like to help add a sub-section that is titled "theophoric names."
I could contain a few honorable mentions., and the importance of highlighting the consistancy of transltion of names like (for example): Jehoshaphat, Jehosheba, Jehoshua, Jehoram, Jehonathan, Jehonadab, etc.
05:21, 27 October 2024 (UTC) 2604:3D09:BA7E:8D20:BF:BD96:3105:E481 (talk) 05:21, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
I offer these possible examples of consistent translation:
- https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Jehonathan (meaning "Jehovah has given" in Biblical Hebrew)
- https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Jehoshaphat (meaning "Jehovah has judged" in Biblical Hebrew)
- https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Jehonadab (meaning "Jehovah is willing" in Biblical Hebrew)
- https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Jehoram (meaning "Jehovah is exalted" in Biblical Hebrew)
- https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Jehoshua (meaning "Jehovah is salvation'" in Biblical Hebrew)
2604:3D09:BA7E:8D20:BF:BD96:3105:E481 (talk) 05:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- You don't need a full-blown thirty-day formal WP:RFC for this, just discuss in the normal way. If you really want to pull in extra opinions, leave a neutrally-worded note on the talk page of one or more appropriate WikiProjects - there are quite a lot listed at the top of this page. Templates such as
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Under the section: "Some translate the Tetragrammaton exclusively as Yahweh:" ADD • Legacy Standard Bible (2021) Felmanir (talk) 13:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 13:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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William Tyndale first introduced the vocalization of the Tetragrammaton Jehovah in his translation at Genesis 15:2. Tyndale used Jehovah some 20 times in his English Translation of the Pentateuch. TrishN10 (talk) 13:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Remsense ‥ 论 13:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Please change X "William Tyndale first introduced the vocalization of the Tetragrammaton Jehovah in his translation of Exodus 6:3," to "William Tyndale first introduced the vocalization of the Tetragrammaton Iehouah in his translation at Genesis 15:2. Tyndale used this vocalization for God's name some 20 times in his English Translation of the Pentateuch. See Archive.org ENGLISH (1530) TYNDALE PENTATEUCH Genesis 15:2. TrishN10 (talk) 13:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: The passage is referring to when work was published, not order within the bible. See the footnote that cites a secondary source. Remsense ‥ 论 13:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @TrishN10, your question has been answered. We do not cite primary sources directly, because it leads to confusion like this. Please do not post the same question again; you will not magically get a different result. Remsense ‥ 论 14:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC)