Talk:Jefferson, Iowa

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Interlingua in topic Mention of Jefferson, Iowa on Star Trek Discovery

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If you want to add Stephen Hoyt as a famous resident, please explain who he is here, or point out another article referring to him.--Vercalos 04:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Would like to consider Doreen Wilber, olympic gold medalist in archery, as a famous resident: http://www.whotv.com/news/who-story-olympic-medal-20110611,0,2796102.story — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.8.223.201 (talk) 02:03, 10 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Mention of Jefferson, Iowa on Star Trek Discovery

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My addition of this information was removed in a revert. The only explanation was "kinda trivial". That is wrong. For a town the size of Jefferson, Iowa, being mentioned on a TV show as important as Star Trek: Discovery is not trivial at all. It would be trivial to mention on the Star Trek: Discovery main article that Jefferson, Iowa was mentioned in S01 E05, but it doesn't work the other way. This something major about the (mostly negligible) role of Jefferson, Iowa in popular culture. Consider Riverside, Iowa as the birthplace of James T. Kirk. That would be a rather trivial matter to mention in the main article for Star Trek (The Original Series) but absolutely is not trivial in the article for Riverside, Iowa Interlingua 21:00, 21 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

The edit is unsourced and does not seem to meet the threshold of notability implied in WP:IPC, WP:HTRIV and MOS:POPCULT. I'm not sure how being "the first Earth location mentioned by name" in a TV series is encyclopedic, regardless of the size of a town. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:53, 22 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Interlingua, the unsourced part is a biggie. Even if you can source the namecheck it would still be unencyclopedic. What wouldn't be unencyclopedic here would be if you could find a reliable secondary source that discusses why the writer used the town's name. You see, what you know isn't what you write here, see WP:OR. The aforementioned source would give you something to paraphrase, which is where everything here is supposed to come from. 174.212.238.226 (talk) 00:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
I agree that the "first mentioned" part should be cited, but that's not the thing that I think is most important. The most important part, and it is encyclopedic for such a small town, is that Jefferson is mentioned in the Star Trek franchise. When I added that to the article, the entire addition was removed rather than either 1) removing "the first mentioned" or 2) adding a Citation Needed tag to "the first" part. I can remove the "first mentioned" part but think that the fact that Jefferson is mentioned should remain in the article. Interlingua 13:18, 3 November 2020 (UTC)Reply