Talk:Jake Arrieta/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Barkeep49 (talk · contribs) 00:56, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Review

• LEAD is too short for an article of this length. It doesn't capture his amateur career at all, for instance. See MOS:INTRO

• thoughts on re-write? Cubbie15fan (talk) 19:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

• I removed his 2015 ERA "record" as being more a "fun fact" than true summary.

• Fair enough, it is listed in the 2015 season section Cubbie15fan (talk) 19:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

• The TCU page isn't the worst source for his HS stats but isn't necessarily the best either. Is there a better source available?
• Is there a source that actually talks about his decision to play in college or are we just inferring it from the fact that he was drafted but then went to JC and then TCU?
• [1] is a deadlink
• Is his summer league play in college really notable?
• I don't know that the writing is actually below GA standard but the Amateur section is basically all "here's a stat he did this year". The way it is phrased is varied but am just noting that reading it does get a bit repetitive especially because we're not a sports alamanac. I'm wondering if this whole section could be shortened to reflect his college career more as a whole rather than year by year.
• I don't know that all 3 cites in the first sentence of draft/minor leagues are necessary to establish the information
• It looks like his 2009 minor league year is not covered?
• His career in Baltimore was turbulent and there has been reporting about it at the time and since. I don't think this is adequately captured in that section.
• His 2013 season needs a citation at the end of the paragraph to support the information there.
• Feels trivial to mention how his no hitters were broken up in 2014 - agree that the 7th or 8th inning fact should stay. My guess without looking at the history is that these were included at the time they happened and show the long term dangers of NOTNEWS.
• While 2015 & 2016 were his best seasons their coverage (as pointed out in GA1) does feel overly long and detailed in comparison to other years. I'm holdoff looking at them in detail until they're condensed.
• Similarly I think the 2017 postseason could be 1 sentence (maybe 2).
• Is there anything notable about his defense outside of the 2018 season? I see no coverage of it anywhere else in the article
• The third sentence of pitching style is out of date and should be updated or otherwise reformulated. Same is true for the next sentence.
• There are definitely sources available for Arrieta noticeably pitches across his body.
• I don't know that his Puerto Rican ancestry is necessary
• The pictures are all CC compliant but would suggest that they spread more evenly throughout - they're clustered more to the top right now. Even if there's another picture of him on the Phillies that could be used that would be great.
• No issues with other GA criteria such as copyright.
• In general as I noted for the amateur section I worry about this being more stats based rather than narrative based. In looking at several GAs of current players, I have issues with many of the modern players in this regard as opposed to the prose found in those of an older player like Cy Young or even Kenny_Lofton whose career was largely outside the Wikipedia era.

Discussion

I've had my eye on this for a bit. I will begin a detailed read through in the next couple of days and it'll likely take me a couple of days to conduct the review.Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:56, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@Cubbie15fan: review complete. In particular please see the last bullet point under review. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: thanks, I'll through each point you've made above as time permits. Cubbie15fan (talk) 18:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Cubbie15fan Any update? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:14, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

I am going ahead and closing this review given the lack of response. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2019 (UTC)