Talk:Irving Smith (RAF officer)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 11:48, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Will get to this shortly. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 11:48, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Prelim

• No duplicated links (bar different levels of the same award which I think are fine to all be linked)
• No edit wars
• Images are licensed
• Earwig reports no copyvio; only flag is on medal citation quote

Early life

• "A. E. Smith and his wife." is the wife named?

• Unfortunately no. Zawed (talk) 07:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "coach" needs a link, but I'm not sure what type of coach it would have been!

• Done. Zawed (talk) 06:30, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link commission

• Done. Zawed (talk) 06:30, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Second World War

• Link Tiger Moths

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link Battle of Britain

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "he destroyed" > "Smith destroyed"

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link dogfight

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• If there's no link for Stapleford might it be good to use a link to an article on the wider area - whichever Stapleford that may be!

• Sorted this. Zawed (talk) 08:00, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link sortie

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "damaged a second Do 17" do you mean Do 217?

• Whoops, no the earlier reference to Do 217 is in error. Have fixed. Zawed (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "was withdrawn" > "were withdrawn"

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Perhaps link night-fighting

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link flights

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "it was tasked" clarify whether this is the entire squadron or just Smith's Hurricane flight

• It was the squadron, have clarified. Zawed (talk) 08:29, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link Midlands

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "for the next several months" seems unnecessary

• Deleted. Zawed (talk) 07:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• No particular reasoning behind his first DFC?

• Frustratingly, the LG is a notification only, not a published citation. Neither of my main sources (Wynn, Lambert) say why either (probably because of the absence of a published citation). Zawed (talk) 08:29, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "on London"

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "was acting flight lieutenant" > "had been promoted to acting flight lieutenant and commanded.."?

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "this was only of limited success" what was? the co-operation or the use of the Havocs?

• Have clarified this. Zawed (talk) 08:29, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link Norfolk

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "in a position" > "into a position"

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "Shortly after his" > "Shortly after Smith's"

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:43, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "successfully breached the east and north walls" how?

• Clarified. Zawed (talk) 07:43, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "In May, Smith's squadron" so this means he relinquished command of No. 140 Wing? When?

• Yes, have added some clarification but don't have an exact date for relinquishing command. Zawed (talk) 08:29, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link 2nd Tactical Air Force

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:43, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "The night before D-Day" suggest stating date

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:43, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link beachhead

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:43, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link Normandy

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:43, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Postwar service

• "Air HQ" > "Air Headquarters"?

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "flying wing commander" should this be "wing commander (flying)"?

• Have adjusted. Zawed (talk) 08:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "Fenton Church" any idea for a link?

• Linked. Zawed (talk) 07:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "the Tactical Air Command"?

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• "National Defence College" is this the Canadian Forces College?

• No, it must be Royal Military College of Canada, since my source refers to Kingston, where it is located. Zawed (talk) 08:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• Link Devon (lede and infobox too)

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• The Guardian article had his nickname as "Black" - worth mentioning?

• Have added mention of his nickname in the WWII section and also in infobox. Zawed (talk) 08:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

References

• Ref #16 is an error link

• Fixed. Zawed (talk) 07:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

• References otherwise look good.

@Zawed: Have completed my initial comments. Will await your replies. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 23:04, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

@Pickersgill-Cunliffe: thanks very much for the review. I have responded above to your various comments and my edits are here. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 08:40, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

@Zawed: Argh, apologies that I've only just come back to this, it completely slipped my mind! Happy to pass this as satisfying the GA criteria. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 20:50, 19 April 2022 (UTC)