Talk:In dich hab ich gehoffet, Herr

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Gerda Arendt in topic EG: current vs. modern

Continuing discussion from Talk:Nun liebe Seel, nun ist es Zeit

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@Gerda Arendt: thanks for the invitation to write the "tunes" part of this article, but I have no time for this now. I wrote the overview at Talk:Nun liebe Seel, nun ist es Zeit#Now it's time ... yesterday (and the second half of the "Based on the hymn tune "In dich hab ich gehoffet, Herr"" section in the Nun, liebe Seel, nun ist es Zeit article a few days earlier), hoping that could be of some assistance to whoever wants to write that part of this article. --Francis Schonken (talk) 12:34, 11 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Doing that now. I wonder how much should remain in the other article, since this is considered the hymn tune. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 18 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Used?

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Please help me to a word: Reusner didn't "use" a melody - as I understand it but may be wrong". The hymnal had only his text, and a line saying sing to the melody of the other. Is there a word for that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 4 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

I should have commented on that because "noted" was not clear. Maybe "prescribed", "suggested", "recommended", "requested"? I have changed to "recommended" per the wording under "History". Jmar67 (talk) 00:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
I don't know. In those old hymnals, they just had the words, and the title of the melody. Is that a recommatition? Later, a melody for several hymns became called a hymn tune (a term I only know in English), but it would not be historically correct to use it this early. Not happy, but also not knowing anything better. Thank you for thinking. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 5 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
You mean "recommendation". I was just being consistent with the previous wording, which I had not seen when I wrote the OP. I think now that "designated" might be better. Jmar67 (talk) 13:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
... was associated ... was connected? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 5 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

EG: current vs. modern

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Do not think either one is useful, especially not "modern". If year is given, it will be understood as the current edition as of that citation. Jmar67 (talk) 15:52, 21 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Re "... especially not "modern" ..." – "current" is actually worse, imho, see WP:RELTIME (I don't think there's guidance against using the word "modern" when appropriate; "current" is a no-no in mainspace under virtually all circumstances—that is, when writing an encyclopedia, as opposed to writing a blog or an article in a journal—per the guidance). Other than that, giving a reference to an edition that has the EG number is likely indeed the best advice. --Francis Schonken (talk) 16:48, 21 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
A ref giving the EG number is usually given, but I understood the question "when?" as if any link to Evangelisches Gesangbuch needed that is was introduced from 1993, and is current as I write this. (And yes, understand, that "current" is not wanted.) There's a link, and the information "1993" is of no consequence for the hymn article(s), this and others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 21 June 2020 (UTC)Reply