Talk:I (Cyrillic)

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Calbaer in topic "Early" Cyrillic

Lower-case Latin U

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I have sometimes seen this letter written as what appears to me a conventional lower-case Latin 'u'. Is there some reason for this? -Chinju 22:53, 5 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

That's how it is normally hand-written. See Cyrillic alphabet#Letterforms and typography. Michael Z. 2005-10-5 23:03 Z
Ah, thanks, that was quite informative. -Chinju 23:55, 5 October 2005 (UTC)Reply
I've seen it in 'u' form in italic cyrillic text, as well. Note War and Peace (1968 film): its title in italics changes и to и. T. S. Rice 02:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Math formula

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I've seen it in a math formula, any idea what it could mean?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.94.246.45 (talk) 14:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Nine Inch Nails

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Should there be a brief comment on using it to write NIИ?Adavies42 (talk) 16:14, 10 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

No. The band's logo simply reverses the final "N" of its initials to make a brand symbol that's its own mirror image. It has nothing to do with Cyrillic "И". --Thnidu (talk) 18:25, 13 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Confusing opening

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Currently the article begins like this:

I (И и; italics: И и) is a letter ...

While there is more detail later on, at this stage it is totally confusing why the letters within the brackets should have a wildly different form from I, which is also the article title. There need to be some helpful words added. Unfortunately I do not know the best way to address this. 86.160.217.67 (talk) 01:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

This is consistent with the other articles on Cyrillic, in which the English-language name for the letter appears before the way the letter is written. This is, unfortunately, a bit confusing for vowels the two scripts have in common - а, э, и, о, у - which look the same in some cases but not in others. If there's a "solution" to one of these, it should be consistent across all of them. Calbaer (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Article confuses Cyrillic "І" and "И", and often uses Latin "I" for Cyrillic "І"

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EDITING IN PROGRESS 19:44, 13 October 2018 (UTC) These are for use in editing and will not go into the final comment:

(((Cyrillic: І і))) U+0406, U+0456
І

(((Latin: I i))) U+0052, U+0072

(((И и))) U+0480, U+0512

Latin I for Cyrillic "І"

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In many places the article uses Latin "I" when referring to the identical-looking Cyrillic letter "І". I am correcting these; and to avoid further confusion I'm using the Unicode expression І instead of the character "І" in editing the article as well as here in my Talk page post.


  • § History
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      The Cyrillic letter (И) was derived from the Greek letter Eta (Η η). This is why the earliest (up to the 13th century) shape of Cyrillic ⟨И⟩ was ⟨H⟩.
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      In the Early Cyrillic alphabet there was little or no distinction between the letter ⟨И⟩ and the letter ⟨І⟩, which was derived from the Greek letter Iota (Ι ι).


  • § Form
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      Originally, Cyrillic ⟨И⟩ had the shape identical to the capital Greek letter Eta ⟨Η⟩. Later, the middle stroke was turned counterclockwise, resulting in the modern form resembling a mirrored capital Latin letter N ⟨N⟩ (this is why ⟨И⟩ is used in faux Cyrillic typography).

"Early" Cyrillic

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"Н" and "I" are listed as being "early Cyrillic" ways of writing the letter, but these continued into the 18th century, e.g., http://silver-copeck.ru/8013/1717.html , where coins were struck with "РѠССIН" instead of "РОССИИ." Unfortunately, I fear that merely reading to letters might constitute WP:OR, so I hope someone has a good source for fixing this. Calbaer (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2019 (UTC)Reply