Talk:Hurricane Otto (2010)

Rainfall graphics have been created

...and are located in their usual spot. I saw that San Juan is using a different time frame than I did for the storm total rainfall, which makes a few inch difference in the overall total. An e-mail has been sent. Thegreatdr (talk) 13:00, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Hylian Auree (talk) 04:13, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: intelati^talk 04:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

This should be cool. I'll work on it late UTC today.--intelati^talk 04:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   please fix the diblinks to Grand Turk and Quadrant

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   Nice variety of sources. Fix ref number 48 that link is a 404 error.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   Easy to understand and clear

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   All images are PD, No problem there

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Fix the disambig links, and I'll pass it.

Fixed. However, ref 48 isn't a dead link for me... Hylian Auree (talk) 22:36, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Ref 27 actually. --intelati^talk 22:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

I see, I've fixed that now. :) Hylian Auree (talk) 01:01, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the review.Hylian Auree (talk) 07:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Review

Some comments:

• Hurricane Otto was a moderate Category 1 storm that caused widespread damage in portions of the northeastern Caribbean islands. - I feel like this is slightly misleading, since the time it spent as a Category 1 hurricane was well away from land, and near as I can tell most of the damage was done before the storm became a tropical cyclone.
• The second sentence seems to assume the reader understands how TCs work. I don't think tropical cyclogenesis is the best link for "transitioned"; in fact, I think it's enough of a common word that a link simply serves to confuse the reader.
• You have like two sentences of impact info in the entire lead, so it doesn't summarize the essence of the cyclone.
• Although weak, the remnant surface trough persisted - Is this from the wave that dissipated, or the one that remained? I'm confuzzled...
• as a near cold upper low - "Cold upper low" is a weird phrase, and I don't think I've ever heard it used that way before. I think simply "upper-level low" would suffice, since all upper-level lows are cold cored.
• cloudiness and thunderstorms - Again, I think the link is more confusing than it needs to be... everybody knows what clouds and thunderstorms are
• Based on this behavior, the National Hurricane Center (NHC) assessed a high chance of tropical—or subtropical—development within 48 hours. - Nitpicky, but I don't think the dashes are needed.
• The MH seems dense in places. Words like hence seem really stiff to be honest.
• classical - I think in reading some manuals of styles I've learned that "classical" has connotations of older, period aspects of society (classical music), while "classic" is used more as a substitute for "textbook" in "textbook case".
• data obtained during a Hurricane Hunters flight revealed a weak warm core strengthening within the mid levels of the circulation—a feature present at the upper levels of tropical cyclones. - I have no idea what this is trying to say.
• south of Bermuda - How far? Argentina is south of Bermuda... :/
• the newly formed hurricane - I don't think you can really say it's newly formed, but newly upgraded.
• At 0300 UTC October 9, microwave imagery showed the indistinct eyewall was open at all levels, signifying a reach of peak strength of winds - Having an open eyewall means nothing to 98% of readers, and even I wasn't sure how such an inhibiting factor could signify peak strength.
• I don't think the see also section is really needed... you list two random links that you already use earlier in the article. Just stick the portal somewhere else.
• Dead links:
  • http://www.bvibeacon.com/1/
  • http://stluciastar.com/content/archives/15984
  • http://stluciastar.com/content/archives/15981
  • http://www2.bviplatinum.com/news.php?module=news&page=Article&articleID=1286499146
  • http://www2.bviplatinum.com/news.php?module=news&page=Article&articleID=1287690201
  • All three El Nuevo Dia links
  • http://www.vocero.com/noticias/44-ultimas-noticias/15365-65-millones-en-danos-en-carreteras-por-otto.html

Good work overall. Juliancolton (talk) 01:06, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 21 October 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved. Hurricane Otto (2010) to Hurricane Otto and Hurricane Otto (disambiguation) to Tropical Storm Otto (non-admin closure) © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 03:28, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hurricane Otto (2010) → Hurricane Otto – It was the only storm with the name to become a hurricane N-C16 (talk) 09:19, 21 October 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:11, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

• Support per nomination. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 06:43, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
• Support the move. However, N-C16, I think you should have waited to move Hurricane Otto until after the move discussion here. As it is now, we have a malplaced disambiguation (Hurricane Otto is a redirect to Hurricane Otto (disambiguation) instead of vice versa). Also, "Hurricane Otto (disambiguation)" is the wrong title: 1) it's a set list, not a dab, and, 2) as you point out, there is only one hurricane with that name. "Tropical Storm Otto" would probably be better. — Gorthian (talk) 22:20, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 21 November 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved. Hurricane Otto (2010) to Hurricane Otto (2010)♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:21, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hurricane Otto → Hurricane Otto (2010) – Sorry to burst your bubble, but I think we need to move this page back to Hurricane Otto (2010), as the 2016's Otto is expected to become a hurricane within 48-72 hrs, and could well be stronger then the one from 2010. MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 20:01, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

We do not need to do Requested move after Requested move - if Otto becomes a hurricane then we can move this article back without nessecerially going through the requested move process. Also remember we are not allowed to predict the future per WP:Crystal and that Otto may not become a hurricane.Jason Rees (talk) 20:35, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

He is right. We don't need Requested moves, not when we have several administrators in the project. This adds a lot of extra work that no one really cares to do :P But, as there is a current storm named Otto that is threatening land, it is at least appropriate to move this article to the 2010 designator. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:21, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

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