Talk:Human rights in Lebanon

This page appeared in the last few hours and could be seen as part of a campaign to justify Israeli agression towards Lebanon in recent weeks. Compare with the section Human Rights in Israel which is sketchy at best about abuses against Palestinian people by the Israeli state. As a result I've added a NPOV flag. -- Gramscis cousin 08:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I created this page because it was missing. Please notice that since the page only includes the bare information about Human rights in Lebanon, I marked it as a stub, so that other people can add to it. I'm not an Israeli Nationalist and I'm not trying to justify nothing. Instead of NPOV-bashing, you can look up the issue of Human rights in Lebanon and add substantial content to the article. I also think that Human Rights in Israel needs more development, but these two articles are not related in any way. --Gabi S. 08:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Is it impossible to criticise Israel or its "enemies" on Wikipedia, or defending one or the other?

Feels like it. RandallFlagg Scotland 20:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense. Wikipedia is full of criticism on everything, Israel included. The only thing that must be observed is the neutrality, so both sides of each argument must be presented. See NPOV guidelines for detailed examples. --Gabi S. 06:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Racism and irrelevance

How the hell do you know every trace of positive portrayal of Jews is banned? Who cares if Fran Drescher is Jewish or that Jane Fonda once visited Israel? That is not relevant to the article. Get some things straight.

1. Not all Lebanese people are Muslims. There are plenty of Christians who still live in Lebanon and other parts of the Arab world.

2. Not all Lebanese Muslims hate Jews.

3. This page was obviously written by someone who is Jewish. I feel that on Wikipedia, Israel and Jews seem to be immune to criticism. Nobody is immune to criticism.

4. Please, isn't there enough Arab-bashing on Wikipedia?

I really think this needs an NPOV flag. Really. This article is a lie and mean-spirited. - Anonymous, 16 July 2009

Above section seems irrelevant/OT discussion. Will remove after 3 months if there is no dispute. KenThomas (talk) 22:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Women's voting rights

The section on Women's voting rights originally read:

Only women who have completed primary education may vote, while all men are not only allowed, but also required, to vote.

On 19 August 20011 109.110.96.16 changed this to read:

Women earned the right to vote in 1952, just 5 years later than men who earned it in 1947 after the independence from French mandate. Those five years were insignificant since there were no political stability in Lebanon.

And on 22 August I changed the section again by shortening it and adding a reference, so that it now reads:

Women earned the right to vote in 1952, just 5 years later than men, who earned it in 1947 after independence from the French mandate.

And by doing some Web searches, I found this information:

The two nations with partial suffrage are Bhutan and Lebanon. In both of these countries, women are not allowed to vote by convention, rather than law. ... In Lebanon, women must have proof of education at least at the elementary level, while men have no education requirements.

So the question is, are uneducated or undereducated women prevented from voting in Lebanon? Is this different from the rules for men? Is there a better reference for this, than the one from wiseGeek? What should the Wikipedia article say about this? Jeff Ogden (talk) 03:12, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Jeff, I found a useful link here: http://www.lade.org.lb/FAQ/الانتخابات-النيابية-والبلدية/الانتخابات-النيابية-والبلدية/عن-قانون-الانتخابات-النيابية.aspx?lang=en-US here.
The thing about being uneducated or undereducated matters for running elections, for both men and women. There's noting about education concerning [men or] women to vote. As for voting, women are subjected to the same conditions as men are ; thus uneducated or undereducated women can vote in Lebanon.
(ՀԱՅ (talk) 19:58, 31 October 2012 (UTC))

In April and June 2012 User:That-Vela-Fella changed the section to read:

Women earned the right to vote in 1952, just 5 years later than men, who earned it in 1947 shortly after independence from the French mandate. Even though adult womens literacy rates are over 80% today compared to those in 1952, women are still required to show proof of elementary education, but not for men.

Now in March 2013 the earthtrends.wri.org reference is a dead link, but the other two still work. The CIA World Factbook reference (Lebanon Government sub-section) says:

Suffrage: 21 years of age; compulsory for all males; authorized for women at age 21 with elementary education; excludes military personnel

On 9 March 2012, IP 213.103.200.32, without entering an edit summary, shortened the section to read:

Women earned the right to vote in 1952, just 5 years later than men, who earned it in 1947 shortly after independence from the French mandate.

And looking around some more I found a number of web articles that more or less say the same thing as the Yahoo! Answers and CIA World Factbook references. One of them is the Summary section of the Wikipedia article on Women's suffrage, which says:

  Women treated differently from men

  Women cannot vote

  Denied full enfranchisement

Country	Year women first voted at national level	Notes
Lebanon	1952	Proof of elementary education is required for women but not for men, while voting is compulsory for men but optional for women.

And based on all of the above I am going to revert the most recent round of changes and restore the section to the way it read in June 2012, but with a fixed up reference for adult womens' literacy rates, assuming I can find one. We can also continue the discussion here. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 13:51, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunate the link that showed the statistics was removed, although it can still be seen here: http://web.archive.org/web/20090531080923/http://earthtrends.wri.org/text/population-health/country-profile-104.html That-Vela-Fella (talk) 08:22, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Women in Lebanon are not required to prove elementary education to be able to vote. This requirement was dropped in 1957(Women's suffrage) and the Lebanese electoral law doesn't mention anything about it.Atmleb (talk) 06:28, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Freedom of speech

Must mention the interdiction from "insulting the president". Could discuss what happened to "Pierre Hashash" or "Zeid Hamdan" ("Chacun il a ses problèmes") among others.

Film censorship

Well, Censorship in Lebanon redirects to this article. Anyway, how would anyone use this report in English from L'Orient-Le Jour to expand on the country's film censorship system? JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 10:09, 26 August 2023 (UTC)