Talk:How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000 film)

Latest comment: 9 months ago by Ian (Wiki Ed) in topic Wiki Education assignment: Media Effects

Trivia section

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There is a bit of trivia behind this movie... such as the director taking the idea of the world being in a snowflake to a Dr. Seuss book about a world in a speck of dust. --70.58.58.104 (talk) 04:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Cast list incomplete

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Nowhere in this article does it mention that Anthony Hopkins did the narration for this film, and on the Anthony Hopkins wikipedia page it says he narrated "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" not "The Grinch." I changed the article to reflect this. 65.96.38.93 (talk) 02:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Merge?

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I don't know how to suggest mergers or deletions. There is another article at How the Grinch Stole Christmas! (film) that is pretty much a duplicate of this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkeboy (talkcontribs) 16:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

I Agree

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This Article Should Be Called The Grinch (film) not How The Grinch Stole Christmas! (film)

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No, it shouldn't. The Grinch isn't the film's name. The full name is How the Grinch Stole Christmas. C Teng [talk] 15:13, 20 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Name Change?

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I noticed that the book this was made after was called How the Grinch Stole Christmas! with an "!" at the end, shouldn't the movie title have that too? Stealth (talk) 19:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

All the promotional materials for the movie omitted the exclamation point: [1] [2] Robert K S (talk) 20:57, 27 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was oppose Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:10, 8 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Merge or Deletion proposal

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This and The Grinch (film) are clearly duplicates; either one should quite clearly be deleted. The Grinch (film) is the more recent article so I've nominated it for deletion. YeshuaDavid (talk) 16:58, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Dr. Seuss Film made to books

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Dr. Seuss The Lorax is coming soon to theatres. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.90.25 (talk) 00:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Reception - Controversy

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I recall there being a large critical backlash about the movie conspicuously side-stepping the anti-materialism message of the original work, including the omission of the verses that deliver the "moral of the story" and a larger than typical wave of merchandising. If sources could be dug up, I feel this subject would be worthy of some play in the article. 72.12.68.214 (talk) 20:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Article improvement needed

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WP:FILMPLOT says that a good target for the length of a plot synopsis is 400-700 words. Currently, this article has over 800. So it could use a little trimming. Also, aside from a Box Office Mojo link, it is completely unreferenced. Good sections to get sourced would be "Home media" and "Reception" and probably some of the stuff in the lede paragraph could use it too. Elizium23 (talk) 07:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 9 October 2016

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Some quite unconvincing oppose reasons here: "Same IP who's made dozen's of poor RM requests", and "obviously not" for example, are not valid reasons. And at least one version of the movie poster does use "The Grinch" only, as indicated in the support !vote, but there's less evidence that lots of reliable sources call it that. Overall then, the opposers have numerical advantage, and their assertion that the sources don't call it "The Grinch" for the most part seems to be borne out by evidence.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:33, 17 October 2016 (UTC)Reply



Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000 film)The Grinch (film) – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Also, please see other examples like this concerning WP:OFFICIALNAME and COMMONNAME. 31.53.108.231 (talk) 10:08, 9 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • Obviously. However, my point hasn't been answered. Was it commonly (and I don't mean by the industry, I mean commonly by the public) known by its long title in the US or not? Because it certainly wasn't in the UK. It was billed as The Grinch. Was this not the case in the US? Note that even the article says in the first line that it was "promoted theatrically as The Grinch" and that's the title that appears on the poster shown in the article. This suggests that this was its common name even in the US. If so, per WP:COMMONNAME, that's what we should call it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:33, 13 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • I don't live in the U.S. so it's pretty much impossible for me to quantify what the average illiterate Trump supporter called the film in casual conversation. What I do know it that the long title was what appeared on screen and it's in the reviews, written by critics and not people who work in the industry. Leonard Maltin put it under "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" and noted the full title was "Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas " at the end of his review, followed by "Bah humbug!" To the extent that people called it "The Grinch", it was to save breath- the same could be said of the 1966 cartoon and the book. By that logic you can move Hillary Clinton to Hillary (2016 U.S. presidential candidate and former Secretary of State) Ribbet32 (talk) 04:56, 16 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

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A lame-ass joke

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Yes, I know Cindy Lou's father is listed in the ending credits as "Lou Lou Who", and her brothers "Drew Lou Who" and "Stu Lou Who". This must have been a lame attempt at a joke by either the screenwriter, or whoever is responsible for creating the end credits. (The joke apparently because the women in the family, Cindy Lou and mom Betty Lou both have the middle name "Lou", and someone thought it would be funny if the men had the same middle name.) But apparently Ron Howard didn't find it funny enough to use it on screen; the characters are simply known as "Lou", "Drew", and "Stu" (not "Lou Lou", "Drew Lou" or "Stu Lou"). I think the plot description needs to reflect the actual onscreen usage. It might be worth pointing out the end-credit joke in the Cast section, but I can't find a reliable source and can't figure out how not to make it sound like original research. JustinTime55 (talk) 17:59, 26 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

"May Who" or "Maywho"?

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We need to establish a consensus on whether we should list the mayor's name as "Maywho" or "May Who". The credits list clearly says "May Who", but this shouldn't always be taken as gospel, since the credits also say "Lou Lou Who", "Stu Lou Who" and "Drew Lou Who", which are not at all supported by what is heard in the film's dialogue and seems to be a lame-ass attempt at a joke by the screenwriter. Since we don't hear these in the film, I would guess Ron Howard didn't think too highly of this joke.

The problem is, the paradigm of naming all the Who characters with the last name Who (an invention of Seuss which he had the wisdom of not taking too far, which is required by the more complex plot of this film) defies logic when carried past a certain point. Also, we're not supposed to theorize or speculate beyond what "reliable sources" say; we call that "original research". JustinTime55 (talk) 16:45, 2 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

The entries should be as in the credits (see WP:FILMCAST), which is the definitive source for this article. How Seuss named them or how they are in any book is not relevant to here as this article is about the film.--☾Loriendrew☽ (ring-ring) 00:51, 5 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Removed possible circular reporting

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I've gone ahead and removed what I believe to be a case of circular reporting. In particular the cast section said that "Jack Nicholson,[source1] Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman, Nicolas Cage, Tom Hanks, Tim Curry and Eddie Murphy[source2] were all considered" The first source is from 2000 and only says that Audrey Geisels agents wrote a letter declaring that "any actor submitted for the Grinch must be of comparable stature to Jack Nicholson, Jim Carrey, Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman." This does not mean that they were considered for the role. I can find no credible sources on Nicolas Cage, and the addition was made in 2023. Likewise for Tom Hanks (2020) and Tim Curry (also 2020). Some noncredible sources refer to IMDB. I am also skeptical of whether Eddie Murphy was considered, since he is mentioned along with Jack Nicholson in the article. But the source seems credible, so I'm letting those stay. QuarksAndElectrons (talk) 22:26, 8 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Education assignment: Media Effects

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  This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 January 2024 and 2 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Xinliuuu (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 03:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply