Talk:Hot dog stand

New Stuff

There needs to be a citation regarding the "Hot Dog Stand" game, because the author makes an unsubstantiated claim that the player usually fails in his/her efforts to work at the stand. If this is to be included, it ought to have a longer description of the game, and more details. Zminer (talk) 20:57, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Old misc stuff

This article needs to be expanded. Hot Dog Stands are extremely common in the United States. Knowitall 21:22, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Can someone include a mention of the popular computer game hot dog stand? TAngled 18:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Go for it. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 18:31, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

What about the infamous Windows 3 color scheme Hot Dog Stand? http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000341.html?

WP:FOOD Tagging

This article talk page was automatically added with {{WikiProject Food and drink}} banner as it falls under Category:Restaurants or one of its subcategories. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. You can find the related request for tagging here -- TinucherianBot (talk) 09:51, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Gallery

I replaced the gallery section with a list of text links to notable stands, and it's been added back. Does the article need both?

WP:GALLERY says that a gallery may be appropriate to illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images while avoiding similar or repetitive images, unless a point of contrast or comparison is being made. Is this gallery doing that? Lord Belbury (talk) 10:50, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Lord Belbury! Yes, the article needs both the list of text links and the image gallery. Yes, the gallery illustrates aspects of the article that can not be described in words, viz. the variety and colorfulness, and sometimes architectural oddness, of various hot dog stands. I think in this particular case the gallery is a big plus, even though it has more images than are typical on WP. The images "collectively add to the reader's understanding of the subject", etc., as per WP:GALLERY. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 16:35, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Gallery images must collectively add to the reader's understanding of the subject without causing unbalance to an article or section within an article while avoiding similar or repetitive images, unless a point of contrast or comparison is being made. It's about half the article and as a reader I'm not getting much from it beyond the idea that some stands are kiosks, some are larger buildings, and some have novelty shapes or signs. The first two aspects are already covered by the two lead images, so I'd say we only needed another two images to illustrate novelty architecture and signs - not thirty.

Of course, there may be more aspects worth illustrating, but it's not immediately obvious to me what those are. The images should per WP:GALLERY "be captioned to explain their relevance to the article subject" rather than just giving the location. --Lord Belbury (talk) 16:44, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

I really think that the gallery as it is now significantly enhances the article, much to the benefit of our readers. The prose of the article can say what you said -- "some stands are kiosks, some are larger buildings, and some have novelty shapes or signs" -- but it's the photo gallery that conveys the great variety of imaginative architecture that words just can't capture. Yes, it's a huge plus! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 01:38, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Per WP:GALLERY these images should "be captioned to explain their relevance to the article subject". The fact that the Coney Island Colorado is remarkable for being a building that's physically shaped like a hot dog is worth pointing out, and should be stated in the caption, not left as something for the reader to (maybe) notice while looking over 30 broadly similar thumbnail images of hot dog stands. --Lord Belbury (talk) 08:52, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Superfluous image gallery?

Mudwater reverted my edit removing the image gallery, so I'm replying here per BRD. The existing images do a perfectly satisfactory job of representing and illustrating the concept. Perhaps a small gallery to show further variation in design is necessary, but a gallery of 30 pictures definitely violates the guidance at WP:IG. (Looking through the history, the gallery has grown slowly over the years, but it was first really introduced in 2008. It was removed by Belbury in 2022, who also cited WP:IG, and restored by Mudwater in this edit.) Cremastra (talk) 13:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

One significant aspect of hot dog stands is that they exist in a very wide variety of building styles, and often feature unusual or even outlandish architecture or signage. We can say that in the article -- in fact, perhaps the text should be enhanced to emphasize this point -- but the image gallery shows this to our readers in a way that words can not adequately describe. That's why the current image gallery is appropriate for this particular article. Because of this, it does follow the guidelines at WP:IG, where it says, "A gallery section may be appropriate in some Wikipedia articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images." As always, other editors are encouraged to join the discussion -- the more, the merrier. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 15:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I've posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink#Hot dog stand -- image gallery, requesting interested editors to join the discussion here. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 15:27, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

A small gallery of four or five images can adequately demonstrate variety. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 15:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

These gallery images do still need to be captioned to explain their relevance to the article subject, per WP:GALLERY and the 2022 thread above, at which point we'd have a better idea of how many photos were usefully illustrating some aspect of hot dog stands.

I do still doubt that a short article like this one would need anything more than a single third "stands sometimes have novelty shapes" illustration. Belbury (talk) 08:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

I think the gallery is fun. Demonstrates the wide variety of stands. Thriley (talk) 17:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC)