Talk:History of deaf education

General Review

copied from my talk page: user:Serendipity23411 I'm working on an article about the history of deaf education. If its not too much trouble could you give some feed back. —Preceding undated comment added 20:39, 5 November 2011 (UTC).

I don't know anything about deaf ed; I'm not sure why you think I'm qualified to comment. I'll do my best.

• You need photos. Any photos are better than none.

• You need drawings. Clear, accurate drawings are best. No drawings are better than poor ones.

• You need links. You have external citations, which is good; but you have no internal links to other pages in this project. You don't even link to American Sign Language. No topic or thought of significance exists in a vacuum.

• You need focus. The article wobbles around sign language, medical treatment, sociopolitical issues, legal rights, and unrelated disabilities. Some would say any mention of "disability" whatsoever, in a Deaf-related article, is inappropriate.

• You need motive. It's unclear what you're trying to say, or even why you might want to say it. It's unclear, on its face, why its matter cannot be rolled into existing articles.

• You need clarity. The title of the article makes little sense. One might think that the article described methods, used historically, to teach Deaf people math and other common subjects; but it doesn't. One might think the article would discuss how Deaf people learn to live among hearing people, or among other Deaf people, or both; but it doesn't.

My overall, entirely uninformed impression is that you have an axe to grind, perhaps against those who fail to respect sign as a legitimate language. I've known Deaf people and I'm aware that Deaf culture is larger and much fuller than its conception by most hearing people. I assume that if you can't find a place for your material in an existing article related to Deaf culture or Hearing impairment then you not only have an axe to grind against audists but also that you're trying an end run around a clique of Deaf people who currently control all existing pages. I don't know any of this for a fact; I only deduce it from my experience of wikipolitics.

If you feel you absolutely must inject your viewpoint, I suggest you'll have to play the political game. Find out who is controlling the articles that cover your topic of interest, suck up to them, and infiltrate their group. Rational arguments may fail. I have no stomach for this kind of clique-building and toadying; which is why I have given up any serious attempt to edit.

Good luck. — Xiong熊talk* 13:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

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