Talk:Hispanic and Latino Americans

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Italians not considerd Latino in USA?

In the terminology section of this article, it states, "Italian Americans are not cosidered Latino..." Could this bit of misinformation be further from the truth? Latino is the language of Ancient Rome. The ancient Latino people of Rome named their eponyous king "Latinus" (King of the Latino people.). The way to say "Latin" (language) in Italian is "Latino". In English, French and Spanish it's "Latin". In Portuguese, it's "Latim". Rome invented the alfabeto Latino we're using today, our calendar, our year, court system, etc. The continent of America is named after an Italian, Amerigo Vespucci. His given name is derived from the Ancient Latino name "Americus". "Latino" and its Italian plural "Latini" have been Italian given names and surnnames before the American continent got its name. www.houseofnames.com/latino-family-crest. Claudio di Roma (talk) 01:07, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Latino is the short version of Latin American in Spanish which is; latinoamericano, in most sentences in Spanish it is lowercase except if it is done at the beginning, there it is done with a capital "L", this is left open, greetings. 186.11.106.142 (talk) 01:30, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Exactly - the origins of the word and its relation to Latin Europe are not the subject of this article. Latino in this context refers exclusively to those of Latinamerican descent, so no Italians are not Latino within this context. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 15:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

@ Cristiano Tomas. There's only one Latino country in Europe (and the world). It's called Italy. The term "Latin American" ("Latinoamericano") is a 1850s Mexican sham word. "Latino" is not a Spanish word that's short for "latinoamericano". On the contrary, the term "latinoamericano" is an expansion of the pre-existing Italian word "latino". Truthfully, the Italians are the only Latin people who live on the American continent. The Al-Andalus Muslims of Iberia who conquered the Visgoths of Spain and Portugal in the 8th century, lasting until 1492, did not give the world Latin culture. Italy gave the world Latin culture (cultura latina). Spaniards and Portuguese had the total unentitlement to call themselves and their enslaved Native Americans and black people "latinoamericanos" in the 1850s. Now, with all the Native Americans of former Muslim Iberian colonies on the American continent being shuttled by planes, buses, trains, and walking into the US, the face of the US is mostly Native American again with some black Africans. The American continent is beginning to look like The Philippines and the world is embracing it. Claudio di Roma (talk) 16:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

@ The no-name person who commented that "latino" is a Spanish word that is a short version for "latinoamericano", you're so wrong. If you look at the Spanish Wikipedia, you'll see all the kudos for "Latino" goes to Italy. The 1850s Mexican misnomer "latinoamericano" is an expansion of the already pre-existing Italian word "latino". Latino people and Latin culture come from Ancient Rome. "Roma" ("Rome") is such an old word that it's not even an Italian word. It's a Latino (Latin) word. Roma got its name in 753 BC. Madrid didn't get its name until the 9th century AD. You didn't need to tell me about the use of the lower case and upper case "L" in the word "latino". The Spaniards, French, Portuguese, etc are copying the Italians. The origin of the surname "Latino" is from Firenze, Italia (Florence, Italy) of the 1200s. The surname has an upper case "L". Italy is a cultural superpower. Culturally, virtually nothing has been done since the Roman Empire. The world uses Italy's alfabeto latino (Latin alphabet) which was derived from the Etruscan alphabet, from the Greek alphabet, from the Phoenician alphabet, from Egyptian hieroglyphs. If you have Al-Andalus Muslim Spanish or Muslim Portuguese ancestry, you get a nod for the Arabic alphabet. Claudio di Roma (talk) 17:08, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

This is the most common definition used here in the United States and in this article. If you don't like it, deal with it. Take your racist rants to someone who cares to hear them. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 16:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm a non-American who has been watching this debate with amusement. Where I come from, we have no official racial labels, and I have been trying for decades to comprehend how so many Americans can be so certain about their views on something that the rest of the world doesn't even try to define. In your mind, is Latino even a race? HiLo48 (talk) 22:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

@Cristiano Tomas. The racist rants were made against my race by you. I'm Italian. We are the Latino race. By all means, feel free not to use Rome's alfabeto Latino (Latin alphabet) here, and start using your Arabic alphabet as more exploited Native Americans make their way into the US after the Muslims of Al-Andalus Iberia screwed them (and blacks) for centuries and dumped them. And, of course, Spanish and Portuguese surnames are racist surnames owing to the former Muslim Iberian colonies on the American continent. You've got one of those surnames...you own it. It looks like a few Muslims of Iberia and Anglo-Saxons are loitering in the US as larger amounts of Native American caravans are making their way to the US border. Everyone worldside of stateside is enjoying this transition. Caught in it? Too bad, so sad! Claudio di Roma (talk) 18:32, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Wow, you went too far my friend, first, there is no such thing as a Latino race and second, the majority of Latinos are of mixed race of Native Americans, Europeans (Spanish) and Africans, now tell me who the racist is huh. 186.11.103.67 (talk) 03:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

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