Talk:Henry VI of England

Henry VI of England

The portrait in this article is NOT that of Henry VI, but rather Edward VI, who displaced Henry VI as monarch. Buzzhaughton (talk) 00:38, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

I am inclined to trust the National Portrait Gallery on this. Surtsicna (talk) 01:31, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Edward VI did not replace Henry VI. It was Edward IV. GoodDay (talk) 04:50, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

I believe the portraits of Henry VI and Edward IV look similar to each other and to Henry VIII as they were probably painted as a pair for the eighth Henry, and so the artist (who had of course never seen either Henry VI or Edward IV, who were both long dead) painted both kings to look slightly like but not quite the same as his patron. Jacob de Wet II did something very similar for Charles II when he painted all the kings of Scotland. Obviously, he had very little to go on as to how they all really looked, so he just made them all look slightly like, but not quite the same as, Charles II by painting the same nose and eyes and then filling in different facial hair and so on. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:11, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Henry VI's Tutor

Hello!

I have recently made a Wikipedia page for the medieval surgeon Thomas Morstede. This has led me to look at the other medieval surgeons and physicians in proximity to the kings who reigned during the period of the Wars of the Roses. I have a slight problem with something which is mentioned in this Wikipedia page for Henry VI. It states in the third paragraph of the 'Child King' section that- 'From 1428, Henry's tutor was Richard de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, whose father had been instrumental in the opposition to Richard II's reign.' This may be true, however Richard de Beauchamp was not the only tutor to the young Henry VI. In fact- John Somerset was also tutor to Henry VI for at least the period 1430-1432. It states in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography that John Somerset by then was 'a doctor of medicine, whose duties included tutoring the young king as well as preserving his health'. John Somerset is an important figure in Henry VI's life- From tutoring Henry as a child, Somerset was able to socially advance and gain many concessions from the king including fur trimmed robes and gifts of cash and goods (also mentioned in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography). In fact- Somersets influence was so great that the commons in 1450 petitioned for his removal because of his 'subversive influence over Henry VI' (written by Carole Rawcliffe in 'The Profits of Practice). For this reason- I propose to alter the sentence which claims Richard de Beauchamp was Henrys tutor from 1428 onwards- as John Somerset also tutored the king and held influence over him from a young age. Please let me know what you think to this and have a look at my page for Thomas Morstede also. Thanks!

ChocolateOrange1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:01, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Expand on the section "Posthumous cult"

This section of the article mentions only one element of the surviving cultural influence of the cult of Henry VI in England, regarding hymns about him that are still sung. I believe this section could be expanded to include more information on more specific reasons for the nature of the decline of the cult and when it's last remaining devoted members lived. I believe there could also be an expansion on how he is currently viewed by clergy of the Catholic Church and members of the English public. LeFeelInternacionale (talk) 23:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC) Nicholas Mastro

Peak of English power in France

Wouldn't that have actually been under Henry II? 67.79.158.83 (talk) 15:06, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

• How so? Say more, make some arguments for it and maybe put it in the article… WP:Be bold! —GoldRingChip 17:15, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Age at time of accession?

This article (and Commons image) states that Henry was 9 months old when he ascended to the throne, but as per the dates in this article and sources, I make Henry to be 8 months and a few weeks old at the time of his accession. Griffiths in The Reign of King Henry VI (p.1) agrees: "Henry was less than nine months old when his father, Henry V, died in France on 31 August 1422". The Allmand source also seems to agree with my maths (10 months old when he became King of France as well). However, the DNB states "His father's death on 31 Aug. 1422 made him king of England when only nine months old."

Is this just a case of people seeing the months and making it 9 even though he hadn't reached his 9th mensiversary by 1 September? I didn't want to change it myself as the sources conflict and it's possible I'm being thick. Incidentally this was changed in 2008 after a talk page comment but was changed back without a reason given in 2009. Ligaturama (talk) 17:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)