Talk:H. Balfour Gardiner
Latest comment: 2 years ago by JSKutcher in topic Recordings of his works
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Title
editWas he not known generally as "Balfour Gardiner"? If so, should not the title reflect this? -- JackofOz (talk) 09:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- His full name was Henry Balfour Gardiner and his family name was Gardiner. Calling the article Balfour Gardiner would be like naming the article on Mozart: Amadé Mozart. I think it's correct as it is.--Ebrownless (talk) 10:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC) There is also a redirect from "Balfour Gardiner".--Ebrownless (talk) 10:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- The very fact that we have a Balfour Gardiner redirect suggests that a significant number of people know him as such, many of whom may not even be aware there's a Henry in his name. But Google hits are interesing -
- Henry Balfour Gardiner - 22,000
- Balfour Gardiner - 43,000
- H. Balfour Gardiner - 117,000.
- The very fact that we have a Balfour Gardiner redirect suggests that a significant number of people know him as such, many of whom may not even be aware there's a Henry in his name. But Google hits are interesing -
- The last two tell me that the Henry is mostly either downplayed or completely eliminated in references to him. -- JackofOz (talk) 12:30, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right that most people call him Balfour Gardiner! But my Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians lists him under "G". Vaughan Williams, however, is under "W". The article on him is called "Ralph Vaughan Williams". I still think that the article on Gardiner is better under his full name. I've just checked out his "Evening Hymn" in an anthem book (New Church Anthem Book): he's listed as H. Balfour Gardiner. --Ebrownless (talk) 14:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- The last two tell me that the Henry is mostly either downplayed or completely eliminated in references to him. -- JackofOz (talk) 12:30, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- This has nothing to do with his surname, which is Gardiner. It's about whether we use both given names (Henry Balfour), or just his middle name (Balfour), which is the one he's known by, or perhaps "H. Balfour". The third option seems to be the most prevalent one. RVW's surname was Vaughan Williams, and anyone (including Baker's) who refers to him as Williams is just wrong. -- JackofOz (talk) 21:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- I've now moved it to H. Balfour Gardiner, in line with the way he's most commonly referenced. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 00:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Recordings of his works
editThis may be one of the first recordings of his String Quartet in E by the Kutcher String Quartet in 1929 ? JSKutcher (talk) 20:40, 19 January 2022 (UTC)